[Rust for Linux] Poll for call

[Rust for Linux] Poll for call

[Miguel Ojeda]

Hi all,

As discussed in the previous meeting, let's have one meeting focused
on having a re-review of the code for the RFC.

We have a fair amount of new code coming in and I am preparing a few
things too, but it should still be fine by the original schedule [1],
so I propose Saturday 27th or Sunday 28th at 18:00 UTC like last time
(EU evening / US afternoon).

If all goes well, we should be able to send the RFC soon after -rc5.

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/CANiq72knSgMU30A2ALaJGY5FWumPKU18ThvfjR1t14_77kYLrQ@mail.gmail.com/

Cheers,
Miguel

Re: [Rust for Linux] Poll for call

[Alex Gaynor]

I will hopefully be able to make that -- the 27th is unusually busy
for a pandemic day for me :-)

Alex

On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 12:40 PM Miguel Ojeda
<miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> As discussed in the previous meeting, let's have one meeting focused
> on having a re-review of the code for the RFC.
>
> We have a fair amount of new code coming in and I am preparing a few
> things too, but it should still be fine by the original schedule [1],
> so I propose Saturday 27th or Sunday 28th at 18:00 UTC like last time
> (EU evening / US afternoon).
>
> If all goes well, we should be able to send the RFC soon after -rc5.
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/CANiq72knSgMU30A2ALaJGY5FWumPKU18ThvfjR1t14_77kYLrQ@mail.gmail.com/
>
> Cheers,
> Miguel



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Re: [Rust for Linux] Poll for call

[Geert Stappers]

On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 12:57:53PM -0400, Alex Gaynor wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 12:40 PM Miguel Ojeda wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > As discussed in the previous meeting, let's have one meeting focused
> > on having a re-review of the code for the RFC.

Not sure what kind of a meeting, but my intention is to attent
and just listen.  Hear what real programmers talk about.


> > We have a fair amount of new code coming in and I am preparing a few
> > things too, but it should still be fine by the original schedule [1],
> > so I propose Saturday 27th or Sunday 28th at 18:00 UTC like last time
> > (EU evening / US afternoon).
> >
> > If all goes well, we should be able to send the RFC soon after -rc5.
> 
> I will hopefully be able to make that -- the 27th is unusually busy
> for a pandemic day for me :-)


Both 2021-03-27 [2]  and 2021-03-28 are fine for me.


Regards
Geert Stappers

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/CANiq72knSgMU30A2ALaJGY5FWumPKU18ThvfjR1t14_77kYLrQ@mail.gmail.com/
[2] https://xkcd.com/1179/  Oops 2013-02-27  was in Februari eight years ago
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Re: [Rust for Linux] Poll for call

[Miguel Ojeda]

On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 4:14 PM Miguel Ojeda
<miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> so I propose Saturday 27th or Sunday 28th at 18:00 UTC like last time

Let's do it Sunday 28th at 18:00 UTC then.

Cheers,
Miguel

Re: [Rust for Linux] Call Sunday 2021-03-28 18:00 UTC

[Geert Stappers]

On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 01:41:15PM +0100, Miguel Ojeda wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 4:14 PM Miguel Ojeda wrote:
> >
> > so I propose Saturday 27th or Sunday 28th at 18:00 UTC like last time
> 
> Let's do it Sunday 28th at 18:00 UTC then.

Okay.

Where?



Groeten
Geert Stappers
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Silence is hard to parse

Re: [Rust for Linux] Call Sunday 2021-03-28 18:00 UTC

[Miguel Ojeda]

On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 10:12 PM Geert Stappers <stappers@stappers.nl> wrote:
>
> Okay.
>
> Where?

We use Google Meet -- I will share the link privately.

Cheers,
Miguel

Re: [Rust for Linux] Call Sunday 2021-03-28 18:00 UTC

[Kaviraj Kanagaraj]

Hi Miguel

Are people in this mailing list invited? Can you share the link here? I would like to join as well :)

Thanks 
Kaviraj

> On 25-Mar-2021, at 09:17, Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 10:12 PM Geert Stappers <stappers@stappers.nl> wrote:
>> 
>> Okay.
>> 
>> Where?
> 
> We use Google Meet -- I will share the link privately.
> 
> Cheers,
> Miguel

Re: [Rust for Linux] Call Sunday 2021-03-28 18:00 UTC

[Miguel Ojeda]

Hi Kaviraj,

On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 10:02 AM Kaviraj Kanagaraj
<kavirajkanagaraj@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Are people in this mailing list invited? Can you share the link here? I would like to join as well :)

Yes, of course, everyone that wants to join is invited. The link is
shared privately to avoid anonymous/unknown/bot joins, but that's
about it.

Cheers,
Miguel

Re: [Rust for Linux] Call Sunday 2021-03-28 18:00 UTC

[Geert Stappers]

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On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 10:25:11AM +0100, Miguel Ojeda wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 10:02 AM Kaviraj Kanagaraj wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 09:16:33AM +0100, Miguel Ojeda wrote:
> > > On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 10:12 PM Geert Stappers wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Rust for Linux Call Sunday 2021-03-28 18:00 UTC
> > > > > 
> > > >
> > > > Okay.
> > > >
> > > > Where?
> > > 
> > > We use Google Meet -- I will share the link privately.
> > > 
> > 
> > Are people in this mailing list invited?
> > Can you share the link here? I would like to join as well :)
> > 
> 
> Yes, of course, everyone that wants to join is invited.
> The link is shared privately to avoid anonymous/unknown/bot joins,
> but that's about it.


When to expect the invite? (When to start worrying "no invite for me???" ;-)


Are people without a Google account also welcome?

Will the invite like "Dear citizen of Troy, we made a beatifull horse
for you. Come to our site to download it." as a Microsoft Team invite?



Groeten
Geert Stappers
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Re: [Rust for Linux] Call Sunday 2021-03-28 18:00 UTC

[Joshua Abraham]

Hi Miguel,

On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 3:17 AM Miguel Ojeda
<miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> We use Google Meet -- I will share the link privately.

I would also like to attend please. Thanks!

-- 
Respectfully,
Josh Abraham

Re: [Rust for Linux] Call Sunday 2021-03-28 18:00 UTC

[Miguel Ojeda]

On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 12:49 PM Geert Stappers <stappers@stappers.nl> wrote:
>
> When to expect the invite? (When to start worrying "no invite for me???" ;-)

I'm creating the event now.

> Are people without a Google account also welcome?

I am not sure if it works without signing in. Please have a dummy
account ready just in case.

> Will the invite like "Dear citizen of Troy, we made a beatifull horse
> for you. Come to our site to download it." as a Microsoft Team invite?

No extra software needed, only a browser (Chrome, Firefox, Edge...).

Cheers,
Miguel

Re: [Rust for Linux] Call Sunday 2021-03-28 18:00 UTC

[Miguel Ojeda]

Hi all,

Thanks all for joining!

Kaviraj: my apologies -- when someone new joins we do a round of
introductions at the beginning of the meeting, but this time we did it
at the end (but you had already left). If you join next meeting, I
will make sure we do the introductions first! :-)

Updated schedule:

  - We are still targeting the 5th for the RFC. We can delay a week if
we feel it is needed.

  - We will be adding a few things to the RFC:
    + Some of the PRs in the queue.
    + ppc64le support.
    + Binder & a couple rust/kernel/ pieces for it.
      * This does not necessarily mean Binder will go in the merge
window -- it is more to show in the RFC how an actual working module
looks like.
    + Move/split of "Rust example".
    + Kernel docs to be uploaded.
    + Unstable feature list to be updated.

Other topics & news discussed:

  - Wedson joined as a maintainer!

  - RFC:
    + The patches' split (preparation, Rust support, Binder).
    + Attribution, git-blame, kernel process, etc.

  - `alloc`:
    + We will likely end up with our own equivalent in the kernel, but
this is medium-term. For the RFC and likely for the merge, we go with
`alloc`.
    + Ideally, this work could inform the Rust allocator WG!

  - Locking: enforcing correct order/patterns (or at least disallowing
known-incorrect ones) via the type system or extra annotations.

Cheers,
Miguel

Re: [Rust for Linux] Call Sunday 2021-03-28 18:00 UTC

[Kaviraj Kanagaraj]

Hi Miguel!

No problems :) We can do introductions next time :)
It was really nice meeting you all :)

Thanks
Kaviraj 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 28-Mar-2021, at 22:20, Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Thanks all for joining!
> 
> Kaviraj: my apologies -- when someone new joins we do a round of
> introductions at the beginning of the meeting, but this time we did it
> at the end (but you had already left). If you join next meeting, I
> will make sure we do the introductions first! :-)
> 
> Updated schedule:
> 
>  - We are still targeting the 5th for the RFC. We can delay a week if
> we feel it is needed.
> 
>  - We will be adding a few things to the RFC:
>    + Some of the PRs in the queue.
>    + ppc64le support.
>    + Binder & a couple rust/kernel/ pieces for it.
>      * This does not necessarily mean Binder will go in the merge
> window -- it is more to show in the RFC how an actual working module
> looks like.
>    + Move/split of "Rust example".
>    + Kernel docs to be uploaded.
>    + Unstable feature list to be updated.
> 
> Other topics & news discussed:
> 
>  - Wedson joined as a maintainer!
> 
>  - RFC:
>    + The patches' split (preparation, Rust support, Binder).
>    + Attribution, git-blame, kernel process, etc.
> 
>  - `alloc`:
>    + We will likely end up with our own equivalent in the kernel, but
> this is medium-term. For the RFC and likely for the merge, we go with
> `alloc`.
>    + Ideally, this work could inform the Rust allocator WG!
> 
>  - Locking: enforcing correct order/patterns (or at least disallowing
> known-incorrect ones) via the type system or extra annotations.
> 
> Cheers,
> Miguel