rust-for-linux.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
To: Marco Elver <elver@google.com>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	kasan-dev <kasan-dev@googlegroups.com>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Can the Kernel Concurrency Sanitizer Own Rust Code?
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 22:43:36 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YV8HmFZ6RqPMVmSY@boqun-archlinux> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANpmjNOA3NfGDLK2dribst+0899GrwWsinMp7YKYiGvAjnT-qA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 07, 2021 at 04:22:41PM +0200, Marco Elver wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Oct 2021 at 16:16, Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com> wrote:
> [...]
> > > Also of importance will be the __tsan_atomic*() instrumentation, which
> > > KCSAN already provides: my guess is that whatever subset of the LKMM
> > > Rust initially provides (looking at the current version it certainly
> > > is the case), the backend will lower them to LLVM atomic intrinsics
> > > [1], which ThreadSanitizer instrumentation turns into __tsan_atomic*()
> > > calls.
> > > [1] https://llvm.org/docs/Atomics.html
> > >
> >
> > Besides atomics, the counterpart of READ_ONCE() and WRITE_ONCE() should
> > also be looked into, IOW the core::ptr::{read,write}_volatile()
> > (although I don't think their semantics is completely defined since the
> > memory model of Rust is incomplete). There could easily be cases where
> > Rust-side do writes with lock critical sections while C-side do reads
> > out of the lock critical sections, so Rust-side need to play the
> > volatile game.
> >
> > I'm not sure whether rustc will generate special instrumentation for
> > {read,write}_volatile(), if not, we need to provide something similar to
> > KCSAN does for READ_ONCE() and WRITE_ONCE().
> 
> For volatile (i.e. *ONCE()) KCSAN no longer does anything special.
> This was one of the major compiler changes (-mllvm
> -tsan-distinguish-volatile=1, and similarly for GCC) to get KCSAN
> merged in the end.
> 

Ah, I should have remembered this ;-) Thanks!

Regards,
Boqun

> So if rustc lowers core::ptr::{read,write}_volatile() to volatile in
> LLVM IR (which I assume it does), then everything works as intended,
> and no extra explicit instrumentation is required.
> 
> Thanks,
> -- Marco

  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-07 14:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-07 13:01 Can the Kernel Concurrency Sanitizer Own Rust Code? Marco Elver
2021-10-07 14:15 ` Boqun Feng
2021-10-07 14:22   ` Marco Elver
2021-10-07 14:43     ` Boqun Feng [this message]
2021-10-07 17:44     ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-10-07 18:50       ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-10-07 21:42         ` Gary Guo
2021-10-07 22:30           ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-10-07 23:06             ` Gary Guo
2021-10-07 23:42               ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-10-07 23:59                 ` Gary Guo
2021-10-08  0:27                   ` comex
2021-10-08 17:40                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-10-08 21:32                     ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-10-09  0:08                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-10-09 16:31                         ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-10-09 23:59                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-10-11  1:24                             ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-10-11 19:01                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-10-13 11:48                                 ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-10-13 16:07                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-10-13 17:50                                     ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2021-10-14  3:35                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-10-14  8:03                                         ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2021-10-14 19:43                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-10-15 15:06                                             ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2021-10-15 23:29                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-10-08 19:53                 ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-10-08 23:57                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-10-09 16:30                     ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-10-09 23:48                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-10-11  0:59                         ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-10-11 18:52                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-10-13 11:47                             ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-10-13 23:29                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-10-22 19:17                                 ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-10-22 20:34                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-10-07 16:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-10-07 16:35   ` Marco Elver

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=YV8HmFZ6RqPMVmSY@boqun-archlinux \
    --to=boqun.feng@gmail.com \
    --cc=elver@google.com \
    --cc=kasan-dev@googlegroups.com \
    --cc=paulmck@kernel.org \
    --cc=rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).