On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 11:20:00AM +0100, Dominick Grift wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 02:58:41AM +0000, Sugar, David wrote:
> > 
> > On 12/21/18 5:34 AM, Dominick Grift wrote:
> > > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 01:41:25AM +0000, David Sugar wrote:
> > >> These are changes needed when pam_fallock created files in /run/faillock
> > >> (which is labeled faillog_t).  sudo and xdm (and probably other domains)
> > >> will create files in this directory for successful and failed logins
> > >> attempts.
> > > The pam stuff has become a bit broken in my view.
> > >
> > > We use to use auth_use_pam() for these kinds of things but the interface was forgotten and not updated properly.
> > >
> > > So for example sudo does not even call auth_use_pam() and a lot of stuff was added directly to the login_pgm domain that should have been added to auth_use_pam() instead.
> > >
> > > My opinion is that this belongs in auth_use_pam()
> > 
> > Dominick,
> > 
> > I see those interfaces.  It looks like xdm_t already uses 
> > auth_login_pgm_domain(xdm_t).  It also isn't really clear to me what the 
> > difference is between auth_login_pgm_domain() and auth_use_pam().  I 
> > will make updates moving my change into auth_use_pam() and also update 
> > sudo_role_template() to use (I think) auth_login_pgm_domain ().
> 
> sudo is not an auth_login_pgm_domain() i believe
> 
> the auth_use_pam() is a subset of auth_login_pgm_domain()
> 
> so login_pgm domains are pam clients plus extras needed to log in users
> 
> a auth_use_pam() (pam client) has a pam stack but it might not actually do logins
> 
> sudo uses pam but its not a real login program, so afaik sudo should call auth_use_pam()
> xdm is a login_pgm, so is sshd etc
> 
> systemd is also a pam client, but not a login program

And yes systemd needs to be able to create these /run/faillock/USER files as well, but if you test this on RHEL then you wont see it because
RHEL doesnt use /etc/pam.d/systemd-user (i suppose)

so:

1. auth_use_pam() == "pam clients" (programs that have a file in /etc/pam.d), they use pam for authentication of some sort
2, auth_login_pgm_domain() == superset (special pam clients that need permissions to do actual logins)

> 
> > 
> > I will resubmit this patch,
> > 
> > --- snip ---
> 
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