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From: bauen1 <>
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Subject: Re: Are we on the wrong track?
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2020 16:03:39 +0200
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In-Reply-To: <2469682.qIgoumM3a6@liv>


I also agree with most things already said.

I would like to add that the way documentation is currently handled
involves too much copy + paste of almost meaningless descriptions, but I
haven't found a very good alternative either. (maybe adding a type
attribute to the param xml and generating a summary based on that could
work in the most common cases)

On 6/12/20 3:02 PM, Russell Coker wrote:
> Does staff_r even make sense when you could just use
>>> different MCS categories for different users?
>> Yes, as user_r cannot reach admin roles whereas staff_r can.
> The user identity has a permitted list of roles, you can have users who are 
> permitted user_r and sysadm_r and users who are only permitted user_r.  The 
> original benefit of staff_r was to protect staff from attacks by user_r 
> accounts, but we can do that protection with the identity based constraints.

I would propose replacing user based constraints with role based
The user part of the context (normally) doesn't change after login, this
means that files edited by a staff_u user become inaccessible by anyone
else, even if sudo is used to change to staff_u:sysadm_r:sysadm_t, but
reducing the user based constraints for staff_u is undesirable.

Those are just my 2 cents,


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Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-12  0:03 Russell Coker
2020-06-12  7:05 ` Topi Miettinen
2020-06-12  8:02 ` Dac Override
2020-06-12  9:54   ` Russell Coker
2020-06-12 10:15     ` Dominick Grift
2020-06-12 12:05       ` Russell Coker
2020-06-12 12:26         ` Dominick Grift
2020-06-12 12:53           ` Russell Coker
2020-06-12 13:20             ` Dominick Grift
2020-06-14 16:30             ` Topi Miettinen
2020-06-12 11:00 ` Denis Obrezkov
2020-06-12 11:53   ` Russell Coker
2020-06-12 11:57   ` Dominick Grift
2020-06-12 12:52 ` Chris PeBenito
2020-06-12 13:02   ` Russell Coker
2020-06-12 14:03     ` bauen1 [this message]
2020-06-15 13:52     ` Chris PeBenito
2020-06-15 21:02       ` Russell Coker

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