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From: Dominick Grift <dac.override@gmail.com>
To: Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>
Cc: Ted Toth <txtoth@gmail.com>, SELinux <selinux@tycho.nsa.gov>
Subject: Re: MLS dominance check behavior on el7
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 16:36:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180912143644.GA10229@julius.enp8s0.d30> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5a423dc6-6667-772a-4715-64fd23fb8378@tycho.nsa.gov>

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On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 09:57:20AM -0400, Stephen Smalley wrote:
> On 09/12/2018 09:26 AM, Ted Toth wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 8:04 AM Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov
> > <mailto:sds@tycho.nsa.gov>> wrote:
> > 
> >     On 09/11/2018 04:59 PM, Ted Toth wrote:
> >      > That's awesome and now it's got me thinking about other
> >      > classes/permissions that we could implement. Can cil macros can be
> >      > referenced in .te/.if files?
> > 
> >     Not sure I understand your question.  You can't directly embed cil
> >     statements in .te/.if files.  However, if you define a class/permission
> >     in a .cil module, you can certainly specify a require on it and use it
> >     from a conventional .te/.if module, ala:
> >     $ cat > usemcstrans.te <<EOF
> >     policy_module(usemcstrans, 1.0)
> > 
> >     require {
> >              class mcstrans { color_use };
> >              attribute domain;
> >     }
> > 
> >     allow domain self:mcstrans color_use;
> >     EOF
> > 
> >     $ make -f /usr/share/selinux/devel/Makefile usemcstrans.pp
> >     $ sudo semodule -i usemcstrans.pp
> > 
> > 
> > If the cil contained:
> > 
> > (macro use_color (type caller) (allow caller self mcstrans (color_use)))
> > 
> > then in x.te can I use the macro:
> > 
> > type x_t;
> > use_color(x_t)
> 
> Sorry, no.  The macros used in .te/.if files are just m4 definitions handled
> at the preprocessing stage, not a feature of the module language.  The CIL
> macros are directly supported by the CIL compiler, but they won't be visible
> to the module compiler.  Also, you are missing several parentheses above
> (I'm not fond of the lisp-like syntax myself).  In a CIL module, I think the
> correct syntax would be:
> 
> (macro use_color ((type caller)) (allow caller self (mcstrans (color_use))))
> 
> (call use_color(x_t))
> 
> Or you could define a m4 macro in an .if file and use that in a .te file.
> Or both.
> 

Ideally you would have all of your policy written in CIL or in a high-level language that was designed to leverage CIL.

My DSSP2 policy is a CIL-only policy. In there I also leverage unordered classes, Meaning that for example if you remove or disable the mcstrans module then you automatically also remove or disable  the access vectors that mcstrans manages.

minimal:

https://github.com/DefenSec/dssp2-minimal

standard (my personal policy based on top of minimal):

https://github.com/DefenSec/dssp2-standard/commits/master

DSSP2 does not support enforcement of confidentiality though

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-12 14:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-10 17:13 MLS dominance check behavior on el7 Ted Toth
2018-09-10 17:47 ` Stephen Smalley
2018-09-10 18:19   ` Ted Toth
2018-09-10 22:30     ` Ted Toth
2018-09-11 14:41       ` Stephen Smalley
2018-09-11 16:53         ` Joshua Brindle
2018-09-11 17:33           ` Stephen Smalley
2018-09-11 17:39             ` Joshua Brindle
2018-09-11 18:21               ` Stephen Smalley
2018-09-11 18:29         ` Stephen Smalley
2018-09-11 18:49           ` Ted Toth
2018-09-11 18:55             ` Yuli Khodorkovskiy
2018-09-11 19:29             ` Stephen Smalley
2018-09-11 19:43               ` Stephen Smalley
2018-09-11 20:59               ` Ted Toth
2018-09-12 13:05                 ` Stephen Smalley
2018-09-12 13:26                   ` Ted Toth
2018-09-12 13:57                     ` Stephen Smalley
2018-09-12 14:36                       ` Dominick Grift [this message]
2018-09-12 14:57                         ` Ted Toth
2018-09-14 21:18                           ` Ted Toth
2018-09-15  6:08                             ` Dominick Grift
2018-09-11 19:04           ` Joe Nall
2018-09-11 20:20             ` Stephen Smalley
2018-09-30 14:43               ` Chris PeBenito
     [not found]                 ` <6e21676a-249d-8b05-dd9f-09a3671f46f7@tycho.nsa.gov>
2018-10-05 20:05                   ` Chris PeBenito
2018-10-09  2:37                     ` Chad Hanson

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