From: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> To: Daniel Colascione <dancol@google.com> Cc: timmurray@google.com, nosh@google.com, nnk@google.com, lokeshgidra@google.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org, selinux@vger.kernel.org, Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>, Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/6] Harden userfaultfd Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2020 23:50:58 -0800 Message-ID: <202002112332.BE71455@keescook> (raw) In-Reply-To: <20200211225547.235083-1-dancol@google.com> Hi! Firstly, thanks for working on this! It's been on my TODO list for a while. :) Casey already recommended including the LSM list to CC (since this is a new LSM -- there are many LSMs). Additionally, the series should probably be sent _to_ the userfaultfd maintainers: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com> Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com> and I'd also CC a couple other people that have done recent work: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> Jann Horn <jannh@google.com> More notes below... On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 02:55:41PM -0800, Daniel Colascione wrote: > Userfaultfd in unprivileged contexts could be potentially very > useful. We'd like to harden userfaultfd to make such unprivileged use > less risky. This patch series allows SELinux to manage userfaultfd > file descriptors and allows administrators to limit userfaultfd to > servicing user-mode faults, increasing the difficulty of using > userfaultfd in exploit chains invoking delaying kernel faults. I actually think these are two very different goals and likely the series could be split into two for them. One is LSM hooking of userfaultfd and the SELinux attachment, and the other is the user-mode fault restrictions. And they would likely go via separate trees (LSM through James's LSM tree, and probably akpm's -mm tree for the sysctl). > A new anon_inodes interface allows callers to opt into SELinux > management of anonymous file objects. In this mode, anon_inodes > creates new ephemeral inodes for anonymous file objects instead of > reusing a singleton dummy inode. A new LSM hook gives security modules > an opportunity to configure and veto these ephemeral inodes. > > Existing anon_inodes users must opt into the new functionality. > > Daniel Colascione (6): > Add a new flags-accepting interface for anonymous inodes > Add a concept of a "secure" anonymous file > Teach SELinux about a new userfaultfd class > Wire UFFD up to SELinux The above is the first "series"... I don't have much opinion about it, though I do like the idea of making userfaultfd visible to the LSM. > Let userfaultfd opt out of handling kernel-mode faults > Add a new sysctl for limiting userfaultfd to user mode faults Now this I'm very interested in. Can you go into more detail about two things: - What is the threat being solved? (I understand the threat, but detailing it in the commit log is important for people who don't know it. Existing commit cefdca0a86be517bc390fc4541e3674b8e7803b0 gets into some of the details already, but I'd like to see reference to external sources like https://duasynt.com/blog/linux-kernel-heap-spray) - Why is this needed in addition to the existing vm.unprivileged_userfaultfd sysctl? (And should this maybe just be another setting for that sysctl, like "2"?) As to the mechanics of the change, I'm not sure I like the idea of adding a UAPI flag for this. Why not just retain the permission check done at open() and if kernelmode faults aren't allowed, ignore them? This would require no changes to existing programs and gains the desired defense. (And, I think, the sysctl value could be bumped to "2" as that's a better default state -- does qemu actually need kernelmode traps?) Thanks again for the patches! -Kees > > Documentation/admin-guide/sysctl/vm.rst | 13 ++++ > fs/anon_inodes.c | 89 +++++++++++++++++-------- > fs/userfaultfd.c | 29 ++++++-- > include/linux/anon_inodes.h | 27 ++++++-- > include/linux/lsm_hooks.h | 8 +++ > include/linux/security.h | 2 + > include/linux/userfaultfd_k.h | 3 + > include/uapi/linux/userfaultfd.h | 9 +++ > kernel/sysctl.c | 9 +++ > security/security.c | 8 +++ > security/selinux/hooks.c | 68 +++++++++++++++++++ > security/selinux/include/classmap.h | 2 + > 12 files changed, 229 insertions(+), 38 deletions(-) > > -- > 2.25.0.225.g125e21ebc7-goog > -- Kees Cook
next prev parent reply index Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2020-02-11 22:55 Daniel Colascione 2020-02-11 22:55 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] Add a new flags-accepting interface for anonymous inodes Daniel Colascione 2020-02-12 16:37 ` Stephen Smalley 2020-02-12 17:23 ` Daniel Colascione 2020-02-11 22:55 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] Add a concept of a "secure" anonymous file Daniel Colascione 2020-02-12 16:49 ` Stephen Smalley 2020-02-14 22:13 ` kbuild test robot 2020-02-11 22:55 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] Teach SELinux about a new userfaultfd class Daniel Colascione 2020-02-12 17:05 ` Stephen Smalley 2020-02-12 17:19 ` Daniel Colascione 2020-02-12 18:04 ` Stephen Smalley 2020-02-12 18:59 ` Stephen Smalley 2020-02-12 19:04 ` Daniel Colascione 2020-02-12 19:11 ` Stephen Smalley 2020-02-12 19:13 ` Daniel Colascione 2020-02-12 19:17 ` Stephen Smalley 2020-02-11 22:55 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] Wire UFFD up to SELinux Daniel Colascione 2020-02-11 22:55 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] Let userfaultfd opt out of handling kernel-mode faults Daniel Colascione 2020-02-11 22:55 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] Add a new sysctl for limiting userfaultfd to user mode faults Daniel Colascione 2020-02-11 23:13 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] Harden userfaultfd Casey Schaufler 2020-02-11 23:27 ` Daniel Colascione 2020-02-12 16:09 ` Stephen Smalley 2020-02-21 17:56 ` James Morris 2020-02-12 7:50 ` Kees Cook [this message] 2020-02-12 16:54 ` Jann Horn 2020-02-12 17:14 ` Peter Xu 2020-02-12 19:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli 2020-02-12 20:04 ` Daniel Colascione 2020-02-12 23:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli 2020-02-12 17:12 ` Daniel Colascione 2020-02-14 3:26 ` [PATCH 0/3] SELinux support for anonymous inodes and UFFD Daniel Colascione 2020-02-14 3:26 ` [PATCH 1/3] Add a new LSM-supporting anonymous inode interface Daniel Colascione 2020-02-14 3:26 ` [PATCH 2/3] Teach SELinux about anonymous inodes Daniel Colascione 2020-02-14 16:39 ` Stephen Smalley 2020-02-14 17:21 ` Daniel Colascione 2020-02-14 18:02 ` Stephen Smalley 2020-02-14 18:08 ` Stephen Smalley 2020-02-14 20:24 ` Stephen Smalley 2020-02-14 3:26 ` [PATCH 3/3] Wire UFFD up to SELinux Daniel Colascione 2020-03-25 23:02 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] SELinux support for anonymous inodes and UFFD Daniel Colascione 2020-03-25 23:02 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] Add a new LSM-supporting anonymous inode interface Daniel Colascione 2020-03-26 13:53 ` Stephen Smalley 2020-03-25 23:02 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] Teach SELinux about anonymous inodes Daniel Colascione 2020-03-26 13:58 ` Stephen Smalley 2020-03-26 17:59 ` Daniel Colascione 2020-03-26 17:37 ` Stephen Smalley 2020-03-25 23:02 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] Wire UFFD up to SELinux Daniel Colascione 2020-03-25 23:49 ` Casey Schaufler 2020-03-26 18:14 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] SELinux support for anonymous inodes and UFFD Daniel Colascione 2020-03-26 18:14 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] Add a new LSM-supporting anonymous inode interface Daniel Colascione 2020-03-26 19:00 ` Stephen Smalley 2020-03-26 18:14 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] Teach SELinux about anonymous inodes Daniel Colascione 2020-03-26 19:02 ` Stephen Smalley 2020-03-26 18:14 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] Wire UFFD up to SELinux Daniel Colascione 2020-03-26 20:06 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] SELinux support for anonymous inodes and UFFD Daniel Colascione 2020-03-26 20:06 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] Add a new LSM-supporting anonymous inode interface Daniel Colascione 2020-03-27 13:40 ` Stephen Smalley 2020-03-26 20:06 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] Teach SELinux about anonymous inodes Daniel Colascione 2020-03-27 13:41 ` Stephen Smalley 2020-03-26 20:06 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] Wire UFFD up to SELinux Daniel Colascione 2020-04-01 21:39 ` [PATCH v5 0/3] SELinux support for anonymous inodes and UFFD Daniel Colascione 2020-04-01 21:39 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] Add a new LSM-supporting anonymous inode interface Daniel Colascione 2020-05-07 16:02 ` James Morris 2020-08-04 21:22 ` Eric Biggers 2020-04-01 21:39 ` [PATCH v5 2/3] Teach SELinux about anonymous inodes Daniel Colascione 2020-04-01 21:39 ` [PATCH v5 3/3] Wire UFFD up to SELinux Daniel Colascione 2020-08-04 21:16 ` Eric Biggers 2020-04-13 13:29 ` [PATCH v5 0/3] SELinux support for anonymous inodes and UFFD Daniel Colascione 2020-04-22 16:55 ` James Morris 2020-04-22 17:12 ` Casey Schaufler 2020-04-23 22:24 ` Casey Schaufler 2020-04-27 16:18 ` Casey Schaufler 2020-04-27 16:48 ` Stephen Smalley 2020-04-27 17:12 ` Casey Schaufler 2020-04-29 17:02 ` Stephen Smalley 2020-04-27 17:15 ` Casey Schaufler 2020-04-27 19:40 ` Stephen Smalley 2020-06-04 3:56 ` James Morris 2020-06-04 18:51 ` Stephen Smalley 2020-06-04 19:24 ` Lokesh Gidra
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