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From: Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
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Subject: Re: SGX vs LSM (Re: [PATCH v20 00/28] Intel SGX1 support)
Date: Fri, 17 May 2019 15:20:46 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dbaf4695-df60-3ce9-cbf7-b44d7100da2f@tycho.nsa.gov> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6d083885-1880-f33d-a54f-23518d56b714@tycho.nsa.gov>

On 5/17/19 2:05 PM, Stephen Smalley wrote:
> On 5/17/19 1:12 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On May 17, 2019, at 9:37 AM, Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/17/19 12:20 PM, Stephen Smalley wrote:
>>>>> On 5/17/19 11:09 AM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 09:53:06AM -0400, Stephen Smalley wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/16/19 6:23 PM, Xing, Cedric wrote:
>>>>>>> I thought EXECMOD applied to files (and memory mappings backed by 
>>>>>>> them) but
>>>>>>> I was probably wrong. It sounds like EXECMOD applies to the whole 
>>>>>>> process so
>>>>>>> would allow all pages within a process's address space to be 
>>>>>>> modified then
>>>>>>> executed, regardless the backing files. Am I correct this time?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, you were correct the first time I think; EXECMOD is used to 
>>>>>> control
>>>>>> whether a process can make executable a private file mapping that has
>>>>>> previously been modified (e.g. text relocation); it is a special 
>>>>>> case to
>>>>>> support text relocations without having to allow full EXECMEM 
>>>>>> (i.e. execute
>>>>>> arbitrary memory).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SELinux checks relevant to W^X include:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - EXECMEM: mmap/mprotect PROT_EXEC an anonymous mapping 
>>>>>> (regardless of
>>>>>> PROT_WRITE, since we know the content has to have been written at 
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> point) or a private file mapping that is also PROT_WRITE.
>>>>>> - EXECMOD: mprotect PROT_EXEC a private file mapping that has been
>>>>>> previously modified, typically for text relocations,
>>>>>> - FILE__WRITE: mmap/mprotect PROT_WRITE a shared file mapping,
>>>>>> - FILE__EXECUTE: mmap/mprotect PROT_EXEC a file mapping.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (ignoring EXECSTACK and EXECHEAP here since they aren't really 
>>>>>> relevant to
>>>>>> this discussion)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So if you want to ensure W^X, then you wouldn't allow EXECMEM for the
>>>>>> process, EXECMOD by the process to any file, and the combination 
>>>>>> of both
>>>>>> FILE__WRITE and FILE__EXECUTE by the process to any file.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the /dev/sgx/enclave mappings are MAP_SHARED and you aren't 
>>>>>> using an
>>>>>> anonymous inode, then I would expect that only the FILE__WRITE and
>>>>>> FILE__EXECUTE checks are relevant.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, I was just typing this up in a different thread:
>>>>>
>>>>> I think we may want to change the SGX API to alloc an anon inode 
>>>>> for each
>>>>> enclave instead of hanging every enclave off of the 
>>>>> /dev/sgx/enclave inode.
>>>>> Because /dev/sgx/enclave is NOT private, SELinux's 
>>>>> file_map_prot_check()
>>>>> will only require FILE__WRITE and FILE__EXECUTE to mprotect() 
>>>>> enclave VMAs
>>>>> to RWX.  Backing each enclave with an anon inode will make SELinux 
>>>>> treat
>>>>> EPC memory like anonymous mappings, which is what we want (I 
>>>>> think), e.g.
>>>>> making *any* EPC page executable will require PROCESS__EXECMEM (SGX is
>>>>> 64-bit only at this point, so SELinux will always have 
>>>>> default_noexec).
>>>> I don't think we want to require EXECMEM (or equivalently both 
>>>> FILE__WRITE and FILE__EXECUTE to /dev/sgx/enclave) for making any 
>>>> EPC page executable, only if the page is also writable or previously 
>>>> modified.  The intent is to prevent arbitrary code execution without 
>>>> EXECMEM (or FILE__WRITE|FILE__EXECUTE), while still allowing 
>>>> enclaves to be created without EXECMEM as long as the EPC page 
>>>> mapping is only ever mapped RX and its initial contents came from an 
>>>> unmodified file mapping that was PROT_EXEC (and hence already 
>>>> checked via FILE__EXECUTE).
>>>
>>> Also, just to be clear, there is nothing inherently better about 
>>> checking EXECMEM instead of checking both FILE__WRITE and 
>>> FILE__EXECUTE to the /dev/sgx/enclave inode, so I wouldn't switch to 
>>> using anon inodes for that reason.  Using anon inodes also 
>>> unfortunately disables SELinux inode-based checking since we no 
>>> longer have any useful inode information, so you'd lose out on 
>>> SELinux ioctl whitelisting on those enclave inodes if that matters.
>>
>> How can that work?  Unless the API changes fairly radically, users 
>> fundamentally need to both write and execute the enclave.  Some of it 
>> will be written only from already executable pages, and some privilege 
>> should be needed to execute any enclave page that was not loaded like 
>> this.
> 
> I'm not sure what the API is. Let's say they do something like this:
> 
> fd = open("/dev/sgx/enclave", O_RDONLY);
> addr = mmap(NULL, size, PROT_READ | PROT_EXEC, MAP_SHARED, fd, 0);
> stuff addr into ioctl args
> ioctl(fd, ENCLAVE_CREATE, &ioctlargs);
> ioctl(fd, ENCLAVE_ADD_PAGE, &ioctlargs);
> ioctl(fd, ENCLAVE_INIT, &ioctlargs);
> 
> The important points are that they do not open /dev/sgx/enclave with 
> write access (otherwise they will trigger FILE__WRITE at open time, and 
> later encounter FILE__EXECUTE as well during mmap, thereby requiring 
> both to be allowed to /dev/sgx/enclave), and that they do not request 
> PROT_WRITE to the resulting mapping (otherwise they will trigger 
> FILE__WRITE at mmap time).  Then only FILE__READ and FILE__EXECUTE are 
> required to /dev/sgx/enclave in policy.
> 
> If they switch to an anon inode, then any mmap PROT_EXEC of the opened 
> file will trigger an EXECMEM check, at least as currently implemented, 
> as we have no useful backing inode information.

FWIW, looking at the selftest for SGX in the patch series, they open 
/dev/sgx/enclave O_RDWR (probably not necessary?) and mmap the open file 
RWX.  If that is necessary then I'd rather it show up as FILE__WRITE and 
FILE__EXECUTE to /dev/sgx/enclave instead of EXECMEM, so that we can 
allow the process the ability to perform that mmap without allowing it 
to make other mappings WX.  So staying with the single /dev/sgx/enclave 
inode is better in that regard.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-17 19:20 UTC|newest]

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2019-05-15 18:27                     ` SGX vs LSM (Re: [PATCH v20 00/28] Intel SGX1 support) Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-15 19:58                       ` James Morris
2019-05-15 20:35                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-15 22:46                           ` James Morris
2019-05-15 23:13                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-16  3:03                               ` Xing, Cedric
2019-05-16  4:40                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-16 22:23                                   ` Xing, Cedric
2019-05-17  0:35                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-17  1:06                                       ` Xing, Cedric
2019-05-17  1:21                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-17 16:05                                       ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-17 13:53                                     ` Stephen Smalley
2019-05-17 15:09                                       ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-17 16:20                                         ` Stephen Smalley
2019-05-17 16:24                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-17 16:37                                           ` Stephen Smalley
2019-05-17 17:12                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-17 18:05                                               ` Stephen Smalley
2019-05-17 19:20                                                 ` Stephen Smalley [this message]
2019-05-17 19:28                                                 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-17 20:09                                                   ` Stephen Smalley
2019-05-17 20:14                                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-17 20:34                                                       ` Stephen Smalley
2019-05-17 21:36                                                     ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-17 17:29                                             ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-17 17:42                                               ` Stephen Smalley
2019-05-17 17:50                                                 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-17 18:16                                                   ` Stephen Smalley
2019-05-17 17:43                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-17 17:55                                                 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-17 18:04                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2019-05-17 18:21                                                     ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-17 18:33                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2019-05-17 18:52                                                         ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-17 18:53                                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-16  7:24                               ` James Morris
2019-05-16 21:00                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-20  9:38                                 ` Dr. Greg
2019-05-15 21:38                       ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-16  1:19                         ` Haitao Huang
2019-05-16  5:16                       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-05-16 21:02                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-16 22:45                           ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-16 23:29                             ` Xing, Cedric
2019-05-20 11:29                             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-05-20 11:33                           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-05-17  0:03                       ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-17  0:26                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-17 15:41                           ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-20 11:42                             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-05-20 11:41                           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-05-21 15:19                             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-05-21 15:24                               ` Jethro Beekman
2019-05-22 13:10                                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-05-21 15:51                               ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-22 13:20                                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-05-22 13:22                                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-05-22 13:56                                     ` Stephen Smalley
2019-05-22 15:38                                       ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-22 22:42                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-23  2:35                                           ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-23 10:26                                             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-05-23 14:17                                               ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-23 15:38                                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-23 23:40                                                   ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-24  1:17                                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-24  7:24                                                       ` Xing, Cedric
2019-05-24 15:41                                                         ` Stephen Smalley
2019-05-24 16:57                                                           ` Xing, Cedric
2019-05-24 17:42                                                           ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-24 17:54                                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-24 17:56                                                               ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-24 17:54                                                             ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-24 18:34                                                               ` Xing, Cedric
2019-05-24 19:13                                                                 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-24 19:30                                                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-24 20:42                                                                   ` Xing, Cedric
2019-05-24 21:11                                                                     ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-24 19:37                                                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-24 20:03                                                                   ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-24 20:58                                                                     ` Xing, Cedric
2019-05-24 21:27                                                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-24 22:41                                                                       ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-24 23:42                                                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-25 22:40                                                                           ` Xing, Cedric
2019-05-26  0:57                                                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-26  6:09                                                                               ` Xing, Cedric
2019-05-28 20:24                                                                                 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-28 20:48                                                                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-28 21:41                                                                                     ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-30  5:38                                                                                       ` Xing, Cedric
2019-05-30 17:21                                                                                         ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-29 14:08                                                                                   ` Stephen Smalley
2019-05-30  6:12                                                                                     ` Xing, Cedric
2019-05-30 14:22                                                                                       ` Stephen Smalley
2019-05-30 14:31                                                                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-30 15:04                                                                                           ` Stephen Smalley
2019-05-30 16:14                                                                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-30 18:01                                                                                               ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-30 19:20                                                                                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-30 21:16                                                                                                   ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-30 21:23                                                                                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-30 21:36                                                                                                       ` Sean Christopherson
2019-06-03  9:12                                                                                                         ` Dr. Greg
2019-06-03 21:08                                                                                                         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-05-30 21:48                                                                                                   ` Xing, Cedric
2019-05-30 22:24                                                                                                     ` Sean Christopherson
2019-06-03 21:05                                                                                                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-06-03 20:54                                                                                               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-06-03 21:23                                                                                                 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-06-04 11:39                                                                                                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-06-03 21:37                                                                                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-03 20:47                                                                                             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-06-03 20:43                                                                                           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-05-25 17:31                                                                     ` Dr. Greg
2019-05-24 16:43                                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-24 17:07                                                           ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-24 17:51                                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-24 14:44                                                   ` Stephen Smalley
2019-05-27 13:48                                                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-05-23 19:58                                                 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-27 13:34                                                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-05-27 13:38                                                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-05-23  8:10                                           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-05-23  8:23                                             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-05-20 11:36                         ` Jarkko Sakkinen

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