From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65FB4C433F5 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2021 07:32:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S237735AbhLTHcZ (ORCPT ); Mon, 20 Dec 2021 02:32:25 -0500 Received: from us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com ([170.10.129.124]:26504 "EHLO us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S237723AbhLTHcZ (ORCPT ); Mon, 20 Dec 2021 02:32:25 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=redhat.com; s=mimecast20190719; t=1639985544; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=m92q6v4zmCnyHVr0ODCnuNSLZNCopKGH9YDYi2JUVw4=; b=UYcUJOdlQ18//2UIEc+/FlLNKgUs9Ul3sLEHtulN6mQoc9LA5ksSWt4qvuelWSBgUeJmsx XLCQSeQ4N20ldOsLwI4TQaSXMdl2dCFXrbc5DRRboWHE09QLSDqInSllRzgzhrfUwOpkHl /8mFH+DAkNEI11PmNa2mkBF/Lb+mTd0= Received: from mimecast-mx01.redhat.com (mimecast-mx01.redhat.com [209.132.183.4]) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP with STARTTLS (version=TLSv1.2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id us-mta-543-Wqir05YXNv-pctpQYNdbUQ-1; Mon, 20 Dec 2021 02:32:19 -0500 X-MC-Unique: Wqir05YXNv-pctpQYNdbUQ-1 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx02.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mimecast-mx01.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6ADD190D342; Mon, 20 Dec 2021 07:32:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (ovpn-12-142.pek2.redhat.com [10.72.12.142]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A293460C04; Mon, 20 Dec 2021 07:32:12 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2021 15:32:10 +0800 From: Baoquan He To: Hyeonggon Yoo <42.hyeyoo@gmail.com> Cc: Christoph Hellwig , Vlastimil Babka , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, cl@linux.com, John.p.donnelly@oracle.com, kexec@lists.infradead.org, stable@vger.kernel.org, Pekka Enberg , David Rientjes , Joonsoo Kim Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 5/5] mm/slub: do not create dma-kmalloc if no managed pages in DMA zone Message-ID: <20211220073210.GA31681@MiWiFi-R3L-srv> References: <20211213122712.23805-1-bhe@redhat.com> <20211213122712.23805-6-bhe@redhat.com> <20211213134319.GA997240@odroid> <20211214053253.GB2216@MiWiFi-R3L-srv> <20211215044818.GB1097530@odroid> <20211215070335.GA1165926@odroid> <20211215072710.GA3010@lst.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.12 Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: stable@vger.kernel.org On 12/17/21 at 11:38am, Hyeonggon Yoo wrote: > On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 08:27:10AM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 07:03:35AM +0000, Hyeonggon Yoo wrote: > > > I'm not sure that allocating from ZONE_DMA32 instead of ZONE_DMA > > > for kdump kernel is nice way to solve this problem. > > > > What is the problem with zones in kdump kernels? > > > > > Devices that requires ZONE_DMA memory is rare but we still support them. > > > > Indeed. > > > > > > 1) Do not call warn_alloc in page allocator if will always fail > > > > to allocate ZONE_DMA pages. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) let's check all callers of kmalloc with GFP_DMA > > > > if they really need GFP_DMA flag and replace those by DMA API or > > > > just remove GFP_DMA from kmalloc() > > > > > > > > 3) Drop support for allocating DMA memory from slab allocator > > > > (as Christoph Hellwig said) and convert them to use DMA32 > > > > > > (as Christoph Hellwig said) and convert them to use *DMA API* > > > > > > > and see what happens > > > > This is the right thing to do, but it will take a while. In fact > > I dont think we really need the warning in step 1, > > Hmm I think step 1) will be needed if someone is allocating pages from > DMA zone not using kmalloc or DMA API. (for example directly allocating > from buddy allocator) is there such cases? I think Christoph meant to take off the warning. I will post a patch to mute the warning if it's requesting page from DMA zone which has no managed pages. > > > a simple grep > > already allows to go over them. I just looked at the uses of GFP_DMA > > in drivers/scsi for example, and all but one look bogus. > > > > That's good. this cleanup will also remove unnecessary limitations. I searched and investigated several callsites where kmalloc(GFP_DMA) is called. E.g drivers/scsi/sr.c: sr_probe(). The scsi sr driver doesn't check DMA supporting capibility at all, e.g the dma limit, to set the dma mask or coherent_dma_mask. If we want to convert the kmalloc(GFP_DMA) to dma_alloc* API, scsi sr drvier developer/expert's suggestion and help is necessary. Either someone who knows this well help to change it, or give suggestion how to change so that I can do it. > > > > > > > Yeah, I have the same guess too for get_capabilities(), not sure about other > > > > > > callers. Or, as ChristophL and ChristophH said(Sorry, not sure if this is > > > > > > the right way to call people when the first name is the same. Correct me if > > > > > > it's wrong), any buffer requested from kmalloc can be used by device driver. > > > > > > Means device enforces getting memory inside addressing limit for those > > > > > > DMA transferring buffer which is usually large, Megabytes level with > > > > > > vmalloc() or alloc_pages(), but doesn't care about this kind of small > > > > > > piece buffer memory allocated with kmalloc()? Just a guess, please tell > > > > > > a counter example if anyone happens to know, it could be > > > > > > easy. > > > > The way this works is that the dma_map* calls will bounce buffer memory > > that does to fall into the addressing limitations. This is a performance > > overhead, but allows drivers to address all memory in a system. If the > > driver controls memory allocation it should use one of the dma_alloc_* > > APIs that allocate addressable memory from the start. The allocator > > will dip into ZONE_DMA and ZONE_DMA32 when needed. >