From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: "Robin Murphy" <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>,
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Subject: Re: [REGRESSION] Recent swiotlb DMA_FROM_DEVICE fixes break ath9k-based AP
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 17:31:13 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220325163113.GA16426@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220324193158.5fcae106.pasic@linux.ibm.com>
On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 07:31:58PM +0100, Halil Pasic wrote:
> I agree with your analysis. Especially with the latter part (were you
> state that we don't have a good idiom for that use case).
>
> I believe, a stronger statement is also true: it is fundamentally
> impossible to accommodate use cases where the device and the cpu need
> concurrent access to a dma buffer, if the dma buffer isn't in dma
> coherent memory.
Yes, and that is also clearly stated in the DMA API document. We
only have two platforms that do not support DMA coherent memory,
one are the oldest PARISC platforms, and the other is coldfire.
The first has drivers carefully written to actually support that,
the second only has a single driver using DMA that does manual
global cache flushes (while pretending it supports coherent memory).
> If the dma buffer is in dma coherent memory, and we don't need swiotlb,
> then we don't need the dma_sync functionality.
Yes.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-03-25 16:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-03-23 7:19 [REGRESSION] Recent swiotlb DMA_FROM_DEVICE fixes break ath9k-based AP Oleksandr Natalenko
2022-03-23 7:28 ` Kalle Valo
2022-03-23 17:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-23 19:06 ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-23 19:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-23 20:54 ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-24 5:57 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-24 10:25 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2022-03-24 11:05 ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-24 14:27 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-03-24 16:29 ` Maxime Bizon
2022-03-24 16:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-24 16:52 ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-24 17:07 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-03-24 19:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-24 21:14 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-03-25 10:25 ` Maxime Bizon
2022-03-25 11:27 ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-25 23:38 ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-26 16:05 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-03-26 18:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-26 22:38 ` David Laight
2022-03-26 22:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-25 16:25 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-03-25 16:45 ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-25 18:13 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-03-25 18:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-25 19:14 ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-25 19:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-25 19:26 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2022-03-25 19:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-25 19:35 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2022-03-25 20:37 ` Johannes Berg
2022-03-25 20:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-25 21:13 ` Johannes Berg
2022-03-25 21:40 ` David Laight
2022-03-25 21:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-25 22:41 ` David Laight
2022-03-27 3:15 ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-28 9:48 ` Johannes Berg
2022-03-28 9:50 ` Johannes Berg
2022-03-28 9:57 ` Johannes Berg
2022-03-27 3:48 ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-27 5:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-27 5:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-27 15:24 ` David Laight
2022-03-27 19:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-27 20:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-27 23:52 ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-28 0:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-28 12:02 ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-27 23:37 ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-28 0:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-25 7:12 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2022-03-25 9:21 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2022-03-24 18:31 ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-25 16:31 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2022-03-24 18:02 ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-25 15:25 ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-25 16:23 ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-25 16:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-25 18:15 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-03-25 18:42 ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-25 18:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-28 6:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-28 8:15 ` David Laight
2022-03-30 12:11 ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-24 8:55 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
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