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From: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: Lino Sanfilippo <LinoSanfilippo@gmx.de>,
	f.fainelli@gmail.com, rjui@broadcom.com, sbranden@broadcom.com,
	bcm-kernel-feedback-list@broadcom.com, nsaenz@kernel.org,
	linux-spi@vger.kernel.org, linux-rpi-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, p.rosenberger@kunbus.com,
	linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] spi: bcm2835: do not unregister controller in shutdown handler
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2021 15:12:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YVsLxHMCdXf4vS+i@sirena.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211004131756.GW3544071@ziepe.ca>

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On Mon, Oct 04, 2021 at 10:17:56AM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:

> Shutdown is supposed to quiet the HW so it is not doing DMAs any
> more. This is basically an 'emergency' kind of path, the HW should be
> violently stopped if available - ie clearing the bus master bits on
> PCI, for instance.

> When something like kexec happens we need the machine to be in a state
> where random DMA's are not corrupting memory.

That's all well and good but there's no point in implementing something
half baked that's opening up a whole bunch of opportunities to crash the
system if more work comes in after it's half broken the device setup.  

> Due to the emergency sort of nature it is not appropriate to do
> locking complicated sorts of things like struct device unregistrations
> here.

That's just not what's actually implemented in a bunch of places, nor
something one would infer from the documentation ("Called at shut-down
to quiesce the device", no mention of emergency cases which I'd guess
would just be kdump) - there's a bunch of locks in shutdown paths, and
drivers on sleeping buses with shutdown callbacks.  Never mind the few
of them that use a shutdown callback to power the system down, though
that's a different thing and definitely abusing the API.  I would guess
that a good proportion of people implementing it are more worried about
clean system shutdown than they are about kdump.

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-04 14:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-28 19:56 [PATCH] spi: bcm2835: do not unregister controller in shutdown handler Lino Sanfilippo
2021-09-28 20:08 ` Mark Brown
2021-09-29  8:38   ` Aw: " Lino Sanfilippo
2021-10-01 17:54 ` Mark Brown
2021-10-03 15:25   ` Lino Sanfilippo
2021-10-04 12:49     ` Mark Brown
2021-10-04 13:17       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-10-04 14:12         ` Mark Brown [this message]
2021-10-04 15:44           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-10-04 16:31             ` Mark Brown
2021-10-04 16:36               ` Florian Fainelli
2021-10-04 16:51                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-10-04 16:55                   ` Florian Fainelli
2021-10-04 17:13                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-10-04 17:27                       ` Mark Brown
2021-10-04 17:35                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-10-04 17:44                         ` Florian Fainelli
2021-10-04 17:56                           ` Mark Brown
2021-10-04 17:05                   ` Mark Brown
2021-10-04 16:52                 ` Mark Brown
2021-10-04 16:57                   ` Florian Fainelli
2021-10-04 18:30             ` Lino Sanfilippo
2021-10-04 18:37               ` Jason Gunthorpe

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