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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Alexey Makhalov <amakhalov@vmware.com>,
	Dennis Zhou <dennis@kernel.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"stable@vger.kernel.org" <stable@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] mm: fix panic in __alloc_pages
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2021 17:27:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Ya+LbaD8mkvIdq+c@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d01c20fe-86d2-1dc8-e56d-15c0da49afb3@redhat.com>

On Tue 07-12-21 17:09:50, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 07.12.21 16:56, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Tue 07-12-21 16:34:30, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> >> On 07.12.21 16:29, Michal Hocko wrote:
> >>> On Tue 07-12-21 16:09:39, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> >>>> On 07.12.21 14:23, Michal Hocko wrote:
> >>>>> On Tue 07-12-21 13:28:31, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> >>>>> [...]
> >>>>>> But maybe I am missing something important regarding online vs. offline
> >>>>>> nodes that your patch changes?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am relying on alloc_node_data setting the node online. But if we are
> >>>>> to change the call to arch_alloc_node_data then the patch needs to be
> >>>>> more involved. Here is what I have right now. If this happens to be the
> >>>>> right way then there is some additional work to sync up with the hotplug
> >>>>> code.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> diff --git a/mm/page_alloc.c b/mm/page_alloc.c
> >>>>> index c5952749ad40..a296e934ad2f 100644
> >>>>> --- a/mm/page_alloc.c
> >>>>> +++ b/mm/page_alloc.c
> >>>>> @@ -8032,8 +8032,23 @@ void __init free_area_init(unsigned long *max_zone_pfn)
> >>>>>  	/* Initialise every node */
> >>>>>  	mminit_verify_pageflags_layout();
> >>>>>  	setup_nr_node_ids();
> >>>>> -	for_each_online_node(nid) {
> >>>>> -		pg_data_t *pgdat = NODE_DATA(nid);
> >>>>> +	for_each_node(nid) {
> >>>>> +		pg_data_t *pgdat;
> >>>>> +
> >>>>> +		if (!node_online(nid)) {
> >>>>> +			pr_warn("Node %d uninitialized by the platform. Please report with memory map.\n", nid);
> >>>>> +			pgdat = arch_alloc_nodedata(nid);
> >>>>> +			pgdat->per_cpu_nodestats = alloc_percpu(struct per_cpu_nodestat);
> >>>>> +			arch_refresh_nodedata(nid, pgdat);
> >>>>> +			node_set_online(nid);
> >>>>
> >>>> Setting all possible nodes online might result in quite some QE noice,
> >>>> because all these nodes will then be visible in the sysfs and
> >>>> try_offline_nodes() is essentially for the trash.
> >>>
> >>> I am not sure I follow. I believe sysfs will not get populate because I
> >>> do not call register_one_node.
> >>
> >> arch/x86/kernel/topology.c:topology_init()
> >>
> >> for_each_online_node(i)
> >> 	register_one_node(i);
> > 
> > Right you are.
> >  
> >>> You are right that try_offline_nodes will be reduce which is good imho.
> >>> More changes will be possible (hopefully to drop some ugly code) on top
> >>> of this change (or any other that achieves that there are no NULL pgdat
> >>> for possible nodes).
> >>>
> >>
> >> No to exposing actually offline nodes to user space via sysfs.
> > 
> > Why is that a problem with the sysfs for non-populated nodes?
> > 
> 
> https://lore.kernel.org/linuxppc-dev/20200428093836.27190-1-srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com/t/

Thanks. It is good to be reminded that we are in cicling around this
problem for quite some time without really forward much.

> Contains some points -- certainly nothing unfixable but it clearly shows
> that users expect only nodes with actual memory and cpus to be online --
> that's why we export the possible+online state to user space. My point
> is to be careful with such drastic changes and do one step at a time.
>
> I think preallocation of the pgdat is a reasonable thing to have without
> changing user-space visible semantics or even in-kernel semantics.

So your proposal is to drop set_node_online from the patch and add it as
a separate one which handles 
	- sysfs part (i.e. do not register a node which doesn't span a
	  physical address space)
	- hotplug side of (drop the pgd allocation, register node lazily
	  when a first memblocks are registered)

Makes sense?
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-07 16:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-01 20:13 [PATCH] mm: fix panic in __alloc_pages Alexey Makhalov
2021-11-01 20:38 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-11-02  7:47 ` Michal Hocko
2021-11-02  8:12   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-02  8:48     ` Alexey Makhalov
2021-11-02  9:04       ` Michal Hocko
2021-11-02  9:24         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-02 10:34           ` Alexey Makhalov
2021-11-02 11:00             ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-02 11:44               ` Michal Hocko
2021-11-02 12:06                 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-02 12:27                   ` Michal Hocko
2021-11-02 12:39                     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-02 13:25                       ` Michal Hocko
2021-11-02 13:41                         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-02 14:12                           ` Michal Hocko
2021-11-02 14:44                             ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-02 13:52                         ` Oscar Salvador
2021-11-02 14:35                           ` Michal Hocko
2021-11-08  6:12                   ` Alexey Makhalov
2021-11-08  6:36                     ` [PATCH v2] " Alexey Makhalov
2021-11-08  8:32                       ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-08 20:23                         ` [PATCH v3] " Alexey Makhalov
2021-11-09  2:08                           ` Eric Dumazet
2021-11-09  7:03                             ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-09 16:55                               ` Eric Dumazet
2021-11-09 17:15                             ` Michal Hocko
2021-11-09 19:06                               ` Dennis Zhou
2021-11-09 19:54                                 ` Michal Hocko
2021-11-16  1:31                                   ` Alexey Makhalov
2021-11-16  9:17                                     ` Michal Hocko
2021-11-16 20:22                                       ` Alexey Makhalov
2021-11-18  8:35                                         ` Michal Hocko
2021-12-07 10:54                                           ` Michal Hocko
2021-12-07 11:08                                             ` David Hildenbrand
2021-12-07 12:13                                               ` Michal Hocko
2021-12-07 12:28                                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-12-07 13:23                                                   ` Michal Hocko
2021-12-07 15:09                                                     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-12-07 15:29                                                       ` Michal Hocko
2021-12-07 15:34                                                         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-12-07 15:56                                                           ` Michal Hocko
2021-12-07 16:09                                                             ` David Hildenbrand
2021-12-07 16:27                                                               ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2021-12-07 16:36                                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2021-12-07 16:40                                                                   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-12-08  8:28                                                                     ` Michal Hocko
2021-12-07 17:02                                                                   ` Alexey Makhalov
2021-12-07 17:13                                                                     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-12-07 17:17                                                                       ` Alexey Makhalov
2021-12-07 18:03                                                                         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-12-08  8:12                                                                           ` Michal Hocko
2021-12-08  8:24                                                                             ` David Hildenbrand
2021-12-08  8:34                                                                               ` Michal Hocko
2021-12-08  8:38                                                                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-12-08  8:04                                                                         ` Michal Hocko
2021-12-08  8:19                                                                           ` Alexey Makhalov
2021-12-08  8:30                                                                             ` Michal Hocko
2021-12-08  8:54                                             ` Michal Hocko
2021-12-08  8:57                                               ` Alexey Makhalov
2021-12-08  9:55                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2021-12-09  2:16                                               ` Alexey Makhalov
2021-12-09  8:46                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2021-12-09  9:28                                                   ` Alexey Makhalov
2021-12-09  9:56                                                     ` Michal Hocko
2021-12-09 10:23                                                       ` Alexey Makhalov
2021-12-09 13:29                                                         ` Michal Hocko
2021-12-09 19:01                                                           ` Alexey Makhalov
2021-12-10  9:11                                                             ` Michal Hocko
2021-12-17 12:53                                                               ` Michal Hocko
2021-12-21  5:46                                                                 ` Alexey Makhalov
2021-12-21  9:46                                                                   ` Michal Hocko
2021-12-21 20:23                                                                     ` Alexey Makhalov
2021-12-22 11:41                                                                       ` Michal Hocko
2021-12-09 10:48                                             ` Michal Hocko
2021-12-13 15:06                                               ` Michal Hocko
2021-12-13 15:07                                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-12-14  8:38                                                   ` Michal Hocko
2021-11-08 10:37                       ` [PATCH v2] " Michal Hocko
2021-11-02  9:40         ` [PATCH] " Alexey Makhalov
2021-11-02  9:40         ` Michal Hocko

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