From: "Michal Suchánek" <msuchanek@suse.de>
To: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Alexander.Steffen@infineon.com,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
tpmdd-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [tpmdd-devel] [PATCH RESEND 3/3] tpm-chip: Export TPM device to user space even when startup failed
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2017 15:17:39 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170829151739.315ae581@kitsune.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170829125509.55aylht3ikes3bpy@linux.intel.com>
Hello,
On Tue, 29 Aug 2017 15:55:09 +0300
Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 05:15:58PM +0000,
> Alexander.Steffen@infineon.com wrote:
> > But is that just because nobody bothered to implement the necessary
> > logic or for some other reason?
>
> We do not want user space to access broken hardware. It's a huge risk
> for system stability and potentially could be used for evil purposes.
>
> This is not going to mainline as it is not suitable for general
> consumption. You must use a patched kernel if you want this.
>
> /Jarkko
>
It has been pointed out that userspace applications that use direct IO
access exist for the purpose. So using a kernel driver is an
improvement over that if the interface is otherwise sane.
What do you expect is the potential for instability or evil use?
With a kernel driver arbitrating the bus access as it would in any
other case I do not see much potential for instability. If there are
cases when the arbitration fails they can surely be more likely
triggered in cases other than userspace sending arbitrary requests to a
device which is in a state the kernel does not support but otherwise
responsive.
If you really think that accessing a device that is in unsupported
state at boot (as opposed to getting unto unsupported state during
device operation after boot) is a real problem it can be selectable as
compile time option so people who do not want the code do not get it.
Thanks
Michal
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-08-29 13:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-08-24 8:37 [PATCH RESEND 0/3] Export broken TPMs to user space Alexander Steffen
[not found] ` <20170824083714.10016-1-Alexander.Steffen-d0qZbvYSIPpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-24 8:37 ` [PATCH RESEND 1/3] tpm-chip: Move idr_replace calls to appropriate places Alexander Steffen
2017-08-25 17:25 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
[not found] ` <20170825172546.f4bl2wh7tgbyjx2n-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-28 17:18 ` Alexander.Steffen-d0qZbvYSIPpWk0Htik3J/w
2017-08-24 8:37 ` [PATCH RESEND 2/3] tpm-chip: Return TPM error codes from auto_startup functions Alexander Steffen
[not found] ` <20170824083714.10016-3-Alexander.Steffen-d0qZbvYSIPpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-25 17:06 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
[not found] ` <20170825170607.wfnr5y5zres2n42r-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-29 12:11 ` Alexander.Steffen-d0qZbvYSIPpWk0Htik3J/w
2017-08-24 8:37 ` [PATCH RESEND 3/3] tpm-chip: Export TPM device to user space even when startup failed Alexander Steffen
2017-08-25 17:20 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
[not found] ` <20170825172021.lw3ycxqw63ubrcm2-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-28 17:15 ` Alexander.Steffen-d0qZbvYSIPpWk0Htik3J/w
2017-08-29 12:55 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-08-29 13:17 ` Michal Suchánek [this message]
[not found] ` <20170829151739.315ae581-6hIufAJW0g4CVLCxKZUutA@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-29 13:53 ` Peter Huewe
2017-08-30 10:26 ` [tpmdd-devel] " Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-08-30 10:15 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-08-30 10:20 ` [tpmdd-devel] " Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-08-30 10:34 ` Michal Suchánek
2017-08-30 11:07 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-08-31 16:18 ` Alexander.Steffen
2017-09-02 10:20 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
[not found] ` <20170830101510.rlkh2p3zecfsrhgl-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-30 10:41 ` Peter Huewe
2017-08-30 11:10 ` [tpmdd-devel] " Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-08-31 16:26 ` Alexander.Steffen
2017-09-02 10:24 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
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