New ML for TPM and IMA

New ML for TPM and IMA

[Jarkko Sakkinen]

Hi

Many people were kicked out from the SourceForge mailing list in the
July because SF required a resubscription, including non-human users,
such as patchwork.

We decided to create a new mailing list linux-integrit@vger.kernel.org
to cover both TPM and IMA since they tend to have cross dependencies.
Otherwise, the maintainer hierarchy etc. will stay the same.

It is all documented here:

http://kernsec.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Kernel_Integrity

>From now on use this list for patches and discussion instead of the
legacy list.

Thank you.

/Jarkko

Re: [tpmdd-devel] New ML for TPM and IMA

[Peter Huewe]

Am 15. September 2017 10:18:25 GMT-07:00 schrieb Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>:
>Hi
>
>Many people were kicked out from the SourceForge mailing list in the
>July because SF required a resubscription, including non-human users,
>such as patchwork.
>
>We decided to create a new mailing list linux-integrit@vger.kernel.org

Of course it's
linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org 
(Cc'ed)




>to cover both TPM and IMA since they tend to have cross dependencies.
>Otherwise, the maintainer hierarchy etc. will stay the same.
>
>It is all documented here:
>
>http://kernsec.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Kernel_Integrity
>
>From now on use this list for patches and discussion instead of the
>legacy list.
>
>Thank you.
>
>/Jarkko
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Re: [tpmdd-devel] New ML for TPM and IMA

[Jarkko Sakkinen]

On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 10:21:16AM -0700, Peter Huewe wrote:
> 
> 
> Am 15. September 2017 10:18:25 GMT-07:00 schrieb Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>:
> >Hi
> >
> >Many people were kicked out from the SourceForge mailing list in the
> >July because SF required a resubscription, including non-human users,
> >such as patchwork.
> >
> >We decided to create a new mailing list linux-integrit@vger.kernel.org
> 
> Of course it's
> linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org 
> (Cc'ed)

D'oh, yes :-)

/Jarkko

Re: New ML for TPM and IMA

[Joe Perches]

On Fri, 2017-09-15 at 10:18 -0700, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Many people were kicked out from the SourceForge mailing list in the
> July because SF required a resubscription, including non-human users,
> such as patchwork.
> 
> We decided to create a new mailing list linux-integrit@vger.kernel.org
> to cover both TPM and IMA since they tend to have cross dependencies.
> Otherwise, the maintainer hierarchy etc. will stay the same.
> 
> It is all documented here:
> 
> http://kernsec.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Kernel_Integrity
> 
> From now on use this list for patches and discussion instead of the
> legacy list.

And is there to be an update to the MAINTAINERS file entries?

Extended Verification Module (EVM)
L:	linux-ima-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
L:	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org

INTEGRITY MEASUREMENT ARCHITECTURE (IMA)
L:	linux-ima-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
L:	linux-ima-user@lists.sourceforge.net
L:	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org

TPM DEVICE DRIVER
L:	tpmdd-devel@lists.sourceforge.net (moderated for non-subscribers)

TPM IBM_VTPM DEVICE DRIVER
L:	tpmdd-devel@lists.sourceforge.net (moderated for non-subscribers)

Re: New ML for TPM and IMA

[Jarkko Sakkinen]

On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 10:25:36AM -0700, Joe Perches wrote:
> On Fri, 2017-09-15 at 10:18 -0700, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > Hi
> > 
> > Many people were kicked out from the SourceForge mailing list in the
> > July because SF required a resubscription, including non-human users,
> > such as patchwork.
> > 
> > We decided to create a new mailing list linux-integrit@vger.kernel.org
> > to cover both TPM and IMA since they tend to have cross dependencies.
> > Otherwise, the maintainer hierarchy etc. will stay the same.
> > 
> > It is all documented here:
> > 
> > http://kernsec.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Kernel_Integrity
> > 
> > From now on use this list for patches and discussion instead of the
> > legacy list.
> 
> And is there to be an update to the MAINTAINERS file entries?
> 
> Extended Verification Module (EVM)
> L:	linux-ima-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> L:	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
> 
> INTEGRITY MEASUREMENT ARCHITECTURE (IMA)
> L:	linux-ima-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> L:	linux-ima-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> L:	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
> 
> TPM DEVICE DRIVER
> L:	tpmdd-devel@lists.sourceforge.net (moderated for non-subscribers)
> 
> TPM IBM_VTPM DEVICE DRIVER
> L:	tpmdd-devel@lists.sourceforge.net (moderated for non-subscribers)

Yes, I'll get onto it. BTW, do we need two entries for TPM in the
MAINTAINERS file or can I merge those?

/Jarkko

Re: New ML for TPM and IMA

[Joe Perches]

On Fri, 2017-09-15 at 10:36 -0700, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 10:25:36AM -0700, Joe Perches wrote:
> > On Fri, 2017-09-15 at 10:18 -0700, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
[]
> > > We decided to create a new mailing list linux-integrit@vger.kernel.org
> > > to cover both TPM and IMA since they tend to have cross dependencies.
[]
> > And is there to be an update to the MAINTAINERS file entries?
[]
> Yes, I'll get onto it. BTW, do we need two entries for TPM in the
> MAINTAINERS file or can I merge those?

As the individual maintainers are different for the two sections,
I think you need both entries.

Re: [tpmdd-devel] New ML for TPM and IMA

[Peter Huewe]

Am 15. September 2017 10:40:14 GMT-07:00 schrieb Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>:
>On Fri, 2017-09-15 at 10:36 -0700, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 10:25:36AM -0700, Joe Perches wrote:
>> > On Fri, 2017-09-15 at 10:18 -0700, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
>[]
>> > > We decided to create a new mailing list
>linux-integrit@vger.kernel.org
>> > > to cover both TPM and IMA since they tend to have cross
>dependencies.
>[]
>> > And is there to be an update to the MAINTAINERS file entries?
>[]
>> Yes, I'll get onto it. BTW, do we need two entries for TPM in the
>> MAINTAINERS file or can I merge those?
>
>As the individual maintainers are different for the two sections,
>I think you need both entries.

Try to get a hold of ashley and ask whether she is actively maintaining.

While updating Maintainers I vote for removing Marcel Selhorst for tpm.

You can keep me for now :)
Peter
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Re: [tpmdd-devel] New ML for TPM and IMA

[Jarkko Sakkinen]

On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 10:47:06AM -0700, Peter Huewe wrote:
> 
> 
> Am 15. September 2017 10:40:14 GMT-07:00 schrieb Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>:
> >On Fri, 2017-09-15 at 10:36 -0700, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> >> On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 10:25:36AM -0700, Joe Perches wrote:
> >> > On Fri, 2017-09-15 at 10:18 -0700, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> >[]
> >> > > We decided to create a new mailing list
> >linux-integrit@vger.kernel.org
> >> > > to cover both TPM and IMA since they tend to have cross
> >dependencies.
> >[]
> >> > And is there to be an update to the MAINTAINERS file entries?
> >[]
> >> Yes, I'll get onto it. BTW, do we need two entries for TPM in the
> >> MAINTAINERS file or can I merge those?
> >
> >As the individual maintainers are different for the two sections,
> >I think you need both entries.
> 
> Try to get a hold of ashley and ask whether she is actively maintaining.
> 
> While updating Maintainers I vote for removing Marcel Selhorst for tpm.
> 
> You can keep me for now :)
> Peter

During the last bit less than couple of years I've been maintaining
TPM and a bit less than four years I've been contributing I've never
heard anything of Ashley.

What is the expiration time?

/JArkko

Re: [tpmdd-devel] New ML for TPM and IMA

[Joe Perches]

On Fri, 2017-09-15 at 10:57 -0700, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 10:47:06AM -0700, Peter Huewe wrote:
> > Am 15. September 2017 10:40:14 GMT-07:00 schrieb Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>:
> > > As the individual maintainers are different for the two sections,
> > > I think you need both entries.
> > 
> > Try to get a hold of ashley and ask whether she is actively maintaining.
> > 
> > While updating Maintainers I vote for removing Marcel Selhorst for tpm.
> > 
> > You can keep me for now :)
> > Peter
> 
> During the last bit less than couple of years I've been maintaining
> TPM and a bit less than four years I've been contributing I've never
> heard anything of Ashley.
> 
> What is the expiration time?

There is no fixed time at all.
Generally when the email bounces or when the maintainer resigns.
(involuntarily or not...)

It seems a couple years since Ashley signed anything and five years
since Marcel Selhorst signed anything.

It's polite to add a CREDITS entry when removing inactive maintainers.

Re: [tpmdd-devel] New ML for TPM and IMA

[Jarkko Sakkinen]

On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 11:01:51AM -0700, Joe Perches wrote:
> On Fri, 2017-09-15 at 10:57 -0700, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 10:47:06AM -0700, Peter Huewe wrote:
> > > Am 15. September 2017 10:40:14 GMT-07:00 schrieb Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>:
> > > > As the individual maintainers are different for the two sections,
> > > > I think you need both entries.
> > > 
> > > Try to get a hold of ashley and ask whether she is actively maintaining.
> > > 
> > > While updating Maintainers I vote for removing Marcel Selhorst for tpm.
> > > 
> > > You can keep me for now :)
> > > Peter
> > 
> > During the last bit less than couple of years I've been maintaining
> > TPM and a bit less than four years I've been contributing I've never
> > heard anything of Ashley.
> > 
> > What is the expiration time?
> 
> There is no fixed time at all.
> Generally when the email bounces or when the maintainer resigns.
> (involuntarily or not...)
> 
> It seems a couple years since Ashley signed anything and five years
> since Marcel Selhorst signed anything.
> 
> It's polite to add a CREDITS entry when removing inactive maintainers.

The file ends:

"
# Don't add your name here, unless you really _are_ after Marc
# alphabetically. Leonard used to be very proud of being the 
# last entry, and he'll get positively pissed if he can't even
# be second-to-last.  (and this file really _is_ supposed to be
# in alphabetic order)
"

So where do I should add?-)

/Jarkko

Re: [tpmdd-devel] New ML for TPM and IMA

[Joe Perches]

On Fri, 2017-09-15 at 14:47 -0700, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 11:01:51AM -0700, Joe Perches wrote:
[]
> > It's polite to add a CREDITS entry when removing inactive maintainers.
> 
> The file ends:
> 
> "
> # Don't add your name here, unless you really _are_ after Marc
> # alphabetically. Leonard used to be very proud of being the 
> # last entry, and he'll get positively pissed if he can't even
> # be second-to-last.  (and this file really _is_ supposed to be
> # in alphabetic order)
> "
> 
> So where do I should add?-)

http://www.varley.net/Pages/Manhattan.htm

Re: New ML for TPM and IMA

[Marcel Selhorst]

>> > While updating Maintainers I vote for removing Marcel Selhorst for tpm.
>> ...
> It seems a couple years since Ashley signed anything and five years
> since Marcel Selhorst signed anything.
> It's polite to add a CREDITS entry when removing inactive maintainers.

Thanks for the credits! I am fine with being removed from the  
MAINTAINERS file, since indeed I haven't been contributing the past  
couple of years. I still follow this list closely, but due to work on  
projects different from TPMs, I couldn't contribute anymore the way I  
wanted to. Hopefully I can change that any time soon. ;-)

Thanks,
Marcel



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Re: [tpmdd-devel] New ML for TPM and IMA

[Ken Goldman]

Newbie question:  Do I have to subscribe, or are email addresses being 
migrated?

On 9/15/2017 1:18 PM, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Many people were kicked out from the SourceForge mailing list in the
> July because SF required a resubscription, including non-human users,
> such as patchwork.
> 
> We decided to create a new mailing list linux-integrit@vger.kernel.org
> to cover both TPM and IMA since they tend to have cross dependencies.
> Otherwise, the maintainer hierarchy etc. will stay the same.
> 
> It is all documented here:
> 
> http://kernsec.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Kernel_Integrity
> 
>  From now on use this list for patches and discussion instead of the
> legacy list.

Re: [tpmdd-devel] New ML for TPM and IMA

[Peter Huewe]

Am 15. September 2017 13:07:58 GMT-07:00 schrieb Ken Goldman <kgold@linux.vnet.ibm.com>:
>Newbie question:  Do I have to subscribe, or are email addresses being 
>migrated

You have to subscribe yourself.
Due to the new privacy regulations I do not have access to any member information anymore on the old list.


Just send a plaintext  email with the body/text
subscribe linux-integrity
to majordomo@vger.kernel.org

Peter
>
>On 9/15/2017 1:18 PM, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
>> Hi
>> 
>> Many people were kicked out from the SourceForge mailing list in the
>> July because SF required a resubscription, including non-human users,
>> such as patchwork.
>> 
>> We decided to create a new mailing list
>linux-integrit@vger.kernel.org
>> to cover both TPM and IMA since they tend to have cross dependencies.
>> Otherwise, the maintainer hierarchy etc. will stay the same.
>> 
>> It is all documented here:
>> 
>> http://kernsec.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Kernel_Integrity
>> 
>>  From now on use this list for patches and discussion instead of the
>> legacy list.
>
>
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Re: [Linux-ima-devel] New ML for TPM and IMA

[Ken Goldman]

I also see email coming from linux-security-module-u79uwXL29TaiAVqoAR/hOA@public.gmane.org

Should I also subscribe to that one?  Is there another one for the TPM 
device driver?  IMA?

On 9/15/2017 1:18 PM, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Many people were kicked out from the SourceForge mailing list in the
> July because SF required a resubscription, including non-human users,
> such as patchwork.
> 
> We decided to create a new mailing list linux-integrit-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
> to cover both TPM and IMA since they tend to have cross dependencies.
> Otherwise, the maintainer hierarchy etc. will stay the same.
> 
> It is all documented here:
> 
> http://kernsec.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Kernel_Integrity
> 
>  From now on use this list for patches and discussion instead of the
> legacy list.


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Re: [Linux-ima-devel] New ML for TPM and IMA

[Jarkko Sakkinen]

> I also see email coming from linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org.
> 
> Should I also subscribe to that one?  Is there another one for the TPM
> device driver?  IMA?
> 

It's all documented in that wiki page!

/Jarkko