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From: Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@kernel.org>
To: "Alex G." <mr.nuke.me@gmail.com>
Cc: Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org>,
	U-Boot Mailing List <u-boot@lists.denx.de>,
	Andre Przywara <andre.przywara@arm.com>,
	Rasmus Villemoes <rasmus.villemoes@prevas.dk>,
	Robert Marko <robert.marko@sartura.hr>,
	Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 02/29] kconfig: Add tools support to CONFIG_IS_ENABLED()
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2021 01:50:29 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAK7LNAT83eNUeUXuruXvNCeGdpiS_OZFmFX4DU7KvHA+DP+iYQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cada774e-1f9c-d92c-34eb-b1840208b1c5@gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 1:11 AM Alex G. <mr.nuke.me@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 9/25/21 8:43 PM, Simon Glass wrote:
> > At present we must separately test for the host build for many options,
> > since we force them to be enabled. For example, CONFIG_FIT is always
> > enabled in the host tools, even if CONFIG_FIT is not enabled by the
> > board itself.
> >
> > It would be more convenient if we could use, for example,
> > CONFIG_IS_ENABLED(FIT) and get CONFIG_HOST_FIT, when building for the
> > host. Add support for this.
> >
> > With this and the tools_build() function, we should be able to remove all
> > the #ifdefs currently needed in code that is build by tools and targets.
> >
> > This will be even nicer when we move to using CONFIG(xxx) everywhere,
> > since all the #ifdef and IS_ENABLED/CONFIG_IS_ENABLED stuff will go away.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org>
> > Suggested-by: Rasmus Villemoes <rasmus.villemoes@prevas.dk> # b4f73886
> > ---
>
> In my vision, the host tools are target-agostic. They always support the
> same feature set: all features. From that point of view, it doesn't make
> sense to have options which enable or disable tools features.


Agree.
Host tools should not depend on any CONFIG option.

In Linux kernel, most host tools are target-agnostic.
(It is true there are some exceptions such as objtool,
modpost, etc. but in theory we can make all of them
target-agnostic)

In fact, U-Boot made much more tools target-dependent.
They must be rebuilt every time you change the configuration.

For example, mkimage in U-Boot supports many boards
and depends on the configuration.
It makes less sense to support all sort of board-specific
firmware in a huge single host tool.


In contrast, Barebox splits it into small programs,
zynq_mkimage, socfpga_mkimage, etc.,
each of which is target-agnostic.  [1]
Makefile decides only whether each program should be built or not.

[1] https://github.com/saschahauer/barebox/blob/v2021.07.0/scripts/Makefile#L22



>
> I understand the motivation is to use CONFIG_IS_ENABLED(), which has the
> appearance of making the code cleaner. We have to continue using #if
> CONFIG_IS_ENABLED() -- is that an improvement over old-school #ifdefs?
>
> So I question whether this new direction makes sense for the long term,
> as opposed to taking a deeper look at the underlying code. The polite
> thing from me would be to propose alternatives, which I don't have the
> bandwidth these days. I won't be adding opposition to this series other
> than these final thoughts. We can fix the code later, and then remove
> the HOST configs.
>
> Alex
>
> >
> > Changes in v5:
> > - Update commit message
> > - Use TOOLS_ instead of HOST_
> >
> > Changes in v2:
> > - Correct comment about USE_HOSTCC being undefined in CONFIG_VAL()
> > - Fix up comment to put an underscore after every CONFIG
> >
> >   include/linux/kconfig.h | 13 ++++++++++---
> >   1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/include/linux/kconfig.h b/include/linux/kconfig.h
> > index d109ed3119e..a1d1a298426 100644
> > --- a/include/linux/kconfig.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/kconfig.h
> > @@ -31,11 +31,14 @@
> >       (config_enabled(option))
> >
> >   /*
> > - * U-Boot add-on: Helper macros to reference to different macros
> > - * (CONFIG_ or CONFIG_SPL_ prefixed), depending on the build context.
> > + * U-Boot add-on: Helper macros to reference to different macros (prefixed by
> > + * CONFIG_, CONFIG_SPL_, CONFIG_TPL_ or CONFIG_TOOLS_), depending on the build
> > + * context.
> >    */
> >
> > -#if defined(CONFIG_TPL_BUILD)
> > +#ifdef USE_HOSTCC
> > +#define _CONFIG_PREFIX TOOLS_
> > +#elif defined(CONFIG_TPL_BUILD)
> >   #define _CONFIG_PREFIX TPL_
> >   #elif defined(CONFIG_SPL_BUILD)
> >   #define _CONFIG_PREFIX SPL_
> > @@ -49,6 +52,7 @@
> >
> >   /*
> >    * CONFIG_VAL(FOO) evaluates to the value of
> > + *  CONFIG_TOOLS_FOO if USE_HOSTCC is defined,
> >    *  CONFIG_FOO if CONFIG_SPL_BUILD is undefined,
> >    *  CONFIG_SPL_FOO if CONFIG_SPL_BUILD is defined.
> >    *  CONFIG_TPL_FOO if CONFIG_TPL_BUILD is defined.
> > @@ -76,18 +80,21 @@
> >
> >   /*
> >    * CONFIG_IS_ENABLED(FOO) expands to
> > + *  1 if USE_HOSTCC is defined and CONFIG_TOOLS_FOO is set to 'y',
> >    *  1 if CONFIG_SPL_BUILD is undefined and CONFIG_FOO is set to 'y',
> >    *  1 if CONFIG_SPL_BUILD is defined and CONFIG_SPL_FOO is set to 'y',
> >    *  1 if CONFIG_TPL_BUILD is defined and CONFIG_TPL_FOO is set to 'y',
> >    *  0 otherwise.
> >    *
> >    * CONFIG_IS_ENABLED(FOO, (abc)) expands to
> > + *  abc if USE_HOSTCC is defined and CONFIG_TOOLS_FOO is set to 'y',
> >    *  abc if CONFIG_SPL_BUILD is undefined and CONFIG_FOO is set to 'y',
> >    *  abc if CONFIG_SPL_BUILD is defined and CONFIG_SPL_FOO is set to 'y',
> >    *  abc if CONFIG_TPL_BUILD is defined and CONFIG_TPL_FOO is set to 'y',
> >    *  nothing otherwise.
> >    *
> >    * CONFIG_IS_ENABLED(FOO, (abc), (def)) expands to
> > + *  abc if USE_HOSTCC is defined and CONFIG_TOOLS_FOO is set to 'y',
> >    *  abc if CONFIG_SPL_BUILD is undefined and CONFIG_FOO is set to 'y',
> >    *  abc if CONFIG_SPL_BUILD is defined and CONFIG_SPL_FOO is set to 'y',
> >    *  abc if CONFIG_TPL_BUILD is defined and CONFIG_TPL_FOO is set to 'y',
> >



-- 
Best Regards
Masahiro Yamada

  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-27 16:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-26  1:43 [PATCH v5 00/29] image: Reduce #ifdefs and ad-hoc defines in image code (Part B) Simon Glass
2021-09-26  1:43 ` [PATCH v5 01/29] compiler: Rename host_build() to tools_build() Simon Glass
2021-10-05 18:09   ` Alex G.
2021-10-09  1:39   ` Tom Rini
2021-09-26  1:43 ` [PATCH v5 02/29] kconfig: Add tools support to CONFIG_IS_ENABLED() Simon Glass
2021-09-27 16:11   ` Alex G.
2021-09-27 16:50     ` Masahiro Yamada [this message]
2021-09-27 20:17       ` Simon Glass
2021-09-27 20:17     ` Simon Glass
2021-10-05 18:11   ` Alex G.
2021-10-07  0:26   ` Tom Rini
2021-10-07  2:49     ` Simon Glass
2021-10-07  2:52       ` Tom Rini
2021-10-07 13:32         ` Simon Glass
2021-10-07 13:42           ` Tom Rini
2021-10-07 18:02             ` Simon Glass
2021-10-07 18:30               ` Tom Rini
2021-10-07 18:50                 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-07 19:32                   ` Alex G.
2021-10-07 19:39                     ` Tom Rini
2021-10-07 20:33                       ` Alex G.
2021-10-07 21:04                         ` Tom Rini
2021-10-07 21:15                           ` Alex G.
2021-10-09  1:39   ` Tom Rini
2021-09-26  1:43 ` [PATCH v5 03/29] image: Add Kconfig options for FIT in the tools build Simon Glass
2021-10-05 18:17   ` Alex G.
2021-10-05 18:17   ` Alex G.
2021-10-09  1:39   ` Tom Rini
2021-09-26  1:43 ` [PATCH v5 04/29] spl: cypto: Bring back SPL_ versions of SHA Simon Glass
2021-10-05 18:19   ` Alex G.
2021-10-09  1:39   ` Tom Rini
2021-09-26  1:43 ` [PATCH v5 05/29] hash: Use Kconfig to enable hashing in host tools and SPL Simon Glass
2021-09-27 15:53   ` Alex G.
2021-09-27 16:06     ` Simon Glass
2021-09-27 16:12       ` Alex G.
2021-10-05 18:21   ` Alex G.
2021-10-09  1:39   ` Tom Rini
2021-09-26  1:43 ` [PATCH v5 06/29] hash: Drop some #ifdefs in hash.c Simon Glass
2021-10-05 18:24   ` Alex G.
2021-10-09  1:39   ` Tom Rini
2021-09-26  1:43 ` [PATCH v5 07/29] image: Drop IMAGE_ENABLE_FIT Simon Glass
2021-10-05 18:26   ` Alex G.
2021-10-09  1:39   ` Tom Rini
2021-09-26  1:43 ` [PATCH v5 08/29] image: Drop IMAGE_ENABLE_OF_LIBFDT Simon Glass
2021-10-05 18:27   ` Alex G.
2021-10-09  1:40   ` Tom Rini
2021-09-26  1:43 ` [PATCH v5 09/29] image: Use Kconfig to enable CONFIG_FIT_VERBOSE on host Simon Glass
2021-10-05 18:29   ` Alex G.
2021-10-09  1:40   ` Tom Rini
2021-09-26  1:43 ` [PATCH v5 10/29] image: Use Kconfig to enable FIT_RSASSA_PSS " Simon Glass
2021-10-05 18:32   ` Alex G.
2021-10-09  1:40   ` Tom Rini
2021-09-26  1:43 ` [PATCH v5 11/29] image: Use the correct checks for CRC32 Simon Glass
2021-10-05 18:34   ` Alex G.
2021-10-09  1:40   ` Tom Rini
2021-09-26  1:43 ` [PATCH v5 12/29] image: Drop IMAGE_BOOT_GET_CMDLINE Simon Glass
2021-10-05 18:36   ` Alex G.
2021-10-09  1:40   ` Tom Rini
2021-09-26  1:43 ` [PATCH v5 13/29] image: Drop IMAGE_OF_BOARD_SETUP Simon Glass
2021-10-05 18:57   ` Alex G.
2021-10-09  1:40   ` Tom Rini
2021-09-26  1:43 ` [PATCH v5 14/29] image: Drop IMAGE_OF_SYSTEM_SETUP Simon Glass
2021-10-05 18:58   ` Alex G.
2021-10-09  1:40   ` Tom Rini
2021-09-26  1:43 ` [PATCH v5 15/29] image: Drop IMAGE_ENABLE_IGNORE Simon Glass
2021-10-05 18:58   ` Alex G.
2021-10-09  1:40   ` Tom Rini
2021-09-26  1:43 ` [PATCH v5 16/29] efi: Correct dependency on FIT_SIGNATURE Simon Glass
2021-10-09  1:40   ` Tom Rini
2021-09-26  1:43 ` [PATCH v5 19/29] image: Tidy up fit_unsupported_reset() Simon Glass
2021-10-09  1:40   ` Tom Rini
2021-09-26  1:43 ` [PATCH v5 20/29] image: Drop unnecessary #ifdefs from image.h Simon Glass
2021-10-09  1:41   ` Tom Rini
2021-09-26  1:43 ` [PATCH v5 21/29] image: Drop #ifdefs for fit_print_contents() Simon Glass
2021-10-09  1:41   ` Tom Rini
2021-09-26  1:43 ` [PATCH v5 22/29] image: Drop most #ifdefs in image-board.c Simon Glass
2021-10-09  1:41   ` Tom Rini
2021-09-26  1:43 ` [PATCH v5 23/29] image: Reduce variable scope in boot_get_ramdisk() Simon Glass
2021-10-09  1:41   ` Tom Rini
2021-09-26  1:43 ` [PATCH v5 24/29] image: Split up boot_get_ramdisk() Simon Glass
2021-10-09  1:41   ` Tom Rini
2021-09-26  1:43 ` [PATCH v5 25/29] image: Remove #ifdefs from select_ramdisk() Simon Glass
2021-10-09  1:41   ` Tom Rini
2021-12-17 17:40     ` Neil Armstrong
2021-09-26  1:43 ` [PATCH v5 26/29] image: Remove some #ifdefs from image-fit and image-fit-sig Simon Glass
2021-10-09  1:41   ` Tom Rini
2021-09-26  1:43 ` [PATCH v5 27/29] image: Reduce variable scope in boot_get_fdt() Simon Glass
2021-10-09  1:41   ` Tom Rini
2021-09-26  1:43 ` [PATCH v5 28/29] image: Split up boot_get_fdt() Simon Glass
2021-10-09  1:41   ` Tom Rini

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