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* [PATCH 1/1] Update mount options for UDF
@ 2018-02-27 18:44 Steve Kenton
  2018-02-28 13:08 ` Karel Zak
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Steve Kenton @ 2018-02-27 18:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: util-linux; +Cc: Steve Kenton

Signed-off-by: Steve Kenton <skenton@ou.edu>
Acked-by: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
---
 sys-utils/mount.8 | 89 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--------------
 1 file changed, 67 insertions(+), 22 deletions(-)

diff --git a/sys-utils/mount.8 b/sys-utils/mount.8
index c040730a2..2f9890aae 100644
--- a/sys-utils/mount.8
+++ b/sys-utils/mount.8
@@ -2034,20 +2034,51 @@ still possible to read compressed files if mounted with the
 option.
 
 .SS "Mount options for udf"
-udf is the "Universal Disk Format" filesystem defined by the Optical
-Storage Technology Association, and is often used for DVD-ROM.
+UDF is the "Universal Disk Format" filesystem defined by OSTA, the Optical
+Storage Technology Association, and is often used for DVD-ROM, frequently
+in the form of a hybrid UDF/ISO-9660 filesystem. It is, however,
+perfectly usable by itself on disk drives, flash drives and other block devices.
 See also
 .IR iso9660 .
 .TP
+.B uid=
+Make all files in the filesystem belong to the given user.
+uid=forget can be specified independently of (or usually in
+addition to) uid=<user> and results in UDF
+not storing uids to the media. In fact the recorded uid
+is the 32-bit overflow uid -1 as defined by the UDF standard.
+The value is given as either <user> which is a valid user name or the corresponding
+decimal user id, or the special string "forget".
+.TP
 .B gid=
-Set the default group.
+Make all files in the filesystem belong to the given group.
+gid=forget can be specified independently of (or usually in
+addition to) gid=<group> and results in UDF
+not storing gids to the media. In fact the recorded gid
+is the 32-bit overflow gid -1 as defined by the UDF standard.
+The value is given as either <group> which is a valid group name or the corresponding
+decimal group id, or the special string "forget".
 .TP
 .B umask=
-Set the default umask.
+Mask out the given permissions from all inodes read from the filesystem.
 The value is given in octal.
 .TP
-.B uid=
-Set the default user.
+.B mode=
+If mode= is set the permissions of all non-directory inodes read from the
+filesystem will be set to the given mode. The value is given in octal.
+.TP
+.B dmode=
+If dmode= is set the permissions of all directory inodes read from the
+filesystem will be set to the given dmode. The value is given in octal.
+.TP
+.B bs=
+Set the block size. Default value prior to kernel version 2.6.30 was
+2048. Since 2.6.30 and prior to 4.11 it was logical device block size with
+fallback to 2048. Since 4.11 it is logical block size with fallback to
+any valid block size between logical device block size and 4096.
+
+For other details see the updated mkudffs.8 manpage, section
+COMPATIBILITY and BLOCK SIZE.
 .TP
 .B unhide
 Show otherwise hidden files.
@@ -2055,41 +2086,55 @@ Show otherwise hidden files.
 .B undelete
 Show deleted files in lists.
 .TP
+.B adinicb
+Embed data in the inode. (default)
+.TP
+.B noadinicb
+Don't embed data in the inode.
+.TP
+.B shortad
+Use short UDF address descriptors.
+.TP
+.B longad
+Use long UDF address descriptors. (default)
+.TP
 .B nostrict
 Unset strict conformance.
-.\" .TP
-.\" .B utf8
-.\" (unused).
 .TP
 .B iocharset
 Set the NLS character set.
-.TP
-.B bs=
-Set the block size. (May not work unless 2048.)
+.SS Mount options for debugging and disaster recovery
 .TP
 .B novrs
-Skip volume sequence recognition.
+Ignore the Volume Recognition Sequence and attempt to mount anyway.
 .TP
 .B session=
-Set the CDROM session counting from 0.  Default: last session.
+Select the session number for multi-session recorded optical media. (default= last session)
 .TP
 .B anchor=
-Override standard anchor location.  Default: 256.
+Override standard anchor location. (default= 256)
+.TP
+.B lastblock=
+Set the last block of the filesystem.
+.SS Unused historical mount options that may be encountered and should be removed
+.TP
+.B uid=ignore
+use uid=<user> instead.
+.TP
+.B gid=ignore
+use gid=<group> instead.
 .TP
 .B volume=
-Override the VolumeDesc location. (unused)
+Override the VolumeDesc location.
 .TP
 .B partition=
-Override the PartitionDesc location. (unused)
-.TP
-.B lastblock=
-Set the last block of the filesystem.
+Override the PartitionDesc location.
 .TP
 .B fileset=
-Override the fileset block location. (unused)
+Override the fileset block location.
 .TP
 .B rootdir=
-Override the root directory location. (unused)
+Override the root directory location.
 
 .SS "Mount options for ufs"
 .TP
-- 
2.16.1.72.g5be1f00


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* Re: [PATCH 1/1] Update mount options for UDF
  2018-02-27 18:44 [PATCH 1/1] Update mount options for UDF Steve Kenton
@ 2018-02-28 13:08 ` Karel Zak
  2018-02-28 13:32   ` Jan Kara
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Karel Zak @ 2018-02-28 13:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Steve Kenton, Jan Kara; +Cc: util-linux, Michael Kerrisk

On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 12:44:07PM -0600, Steve Kenton wrote:
> Signed-off-by: Steve Kenton <skenton@ou.edu>
> Acked-by: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
> ---
>  sys-utils/mount.8 | 89 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--------------
>  1 file changed, 67 insertions(+), 22 deletions(-)

Applied, thanks.

Jan, what about to create udf(5) man page? We already have fs-specific
man pages (e.g. ext4, tmpfs, nfs, btrfs, ...). It's usually maintained
within fs-specific tools (e.g. ext4 -> e2fsprogs) or together with
standard man-pages (CC: to Michael).

    Karel



-- 
 Karel Zak  <kzak@redhat.com>
 http://karelzak.blogspot.com

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* Re: [PATCH 1/1] Update mount options for UDF
  2018-02-28 13:08 ` Karel Zak
@ 2018-02-28 13:32   ` Jan Kara
  2018-02-28 22:03     ` Pali Rohár
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Jan Kara @ 2018-02-28 13:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Karel Zak
  Cc: Steve Kenton, Jan Kara, util-linux, Michael Kerrisk, Pali Rohár

On Wed 28-02-18 14:08:28, Karel Zak wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 12:44:07PM -0600, Steve Kenton wrote:
> > Signed-off-by: Steve Kenton <skenton@ou.edu>
> > Acked-by: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
> > ---
> >  sys-utils/mount.8 | 89 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--------------
> >  1 file changed, 67 insertions(+), 22 deletions(-)
> 
> Applied, thanks.
> 
> Jan, what about to create udf(5) man page? We already have fs-specific
> man pages (e.g. ext4, tmpfs, nfs, btrfs, ...). It's usually maintained
> within fs-specific tools (e.g. ext4 -> e2fsprogs) or together with
> standard man-pages (CC: to Michael).

I'm fine with that. Pali is actually the maintainer of udf-tools so if he
is willing to take the manpage there, it's probably the best place.

								Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>
SUSE Labs, CR

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* Re: [PATCH 1/1] Update mount options for UDF
  2018-02-28 13:32   ` Jan Kara
@ 2018-02-28 22:03     ` Pali Rohár
  2018-03-01 11:08       ` Karel Zak
  2018-05-06 10:35       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-opages)
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Pali Rohár @ 2018-02-28 22:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jan Kara; +Cc: Karel Zak, Steve Kenton, util-linux, Michael Kerrisk

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On Wednesday 28 February 2018 14:32:20 Jan Kara wrote:
> On Wed 28-02-18 14:08:28, Karel Zak wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 12:44:07PM -0600, Steve Kenton wrote:
> > > Signed-off-by: Steve Kenton <skenton@ou.edu>
> > > Acked-by: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
> > > ---
> > >  sys-utils/mount.8 | 89 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--------------
> > >  1 file changed, 67 insertions(+), 22 deletions(-)
> > 
> > Applied, thanks.
> > 
> > Jan, what about to create udf(5) man page? We already have fs-specific
> > man pages (e.g. ext4, tmpfs, nfs, btrfs, ...). It's usually maintained
> > within fs-specific tools (e.g. ext4 -> e2fsprogs) or together with
> > standard man-pages (CC: to Michael).
> 
> I'm fine with that. Pali is actually the maintainer of udf-tools so if he
> is willing to take the manpage there, it's probably the best place.

Is udftools the best place for kernel udf mount options? Because
userspace udftools are not needed for kernel udf driver, nor for
mounting existing udf filesystem.

For me it looks like that kernel drivers should have its documentation
in kernel itself...

Anyway, I have not know yet that there is e.g. ext4 manpage which
describe mount options. I was always looking into mount.8 manpage for
filesystem mount parameters.

The only missing filesystem in mount.8 is nfs, but that is probably
because mount uses mount.nfs helper.

-- 
Pali Rohár
pali.rohar@gmail.com

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* Re: [PATCH 1/1] Update mount options for UDF
  2018-02-28 22:03     ` Pali Rohár
@ 2018-03-01 11:08       ` Karel Zak
  2018-03-01 17:24         ` Pali Rohár
  2018-05-06 10:35       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-opages)
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Karel Zak @ 2018-03-01 11:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Pali Rohár; +Cc: Jan Kara, Steve Kenton, util-linux, Michael Kerrisk

On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 11:03:19PM +0100, Pali Rohár wrote:
> On Wednesday 28 February 2018 14:32:20 Jan Kara wrote:
> > On Wed 28-02-18 14:08:28, Karel Zak wrote:
> > > On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 12:44:07PM -0600, Steve Kenton wrote:
> > > > Signed-off-by: Steve Kenton <skenton@ou.edu>
> > > > Acked-by: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
> > > > ---
> > > >  sys-utils/mount.8 | 89 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--------------
> > > >  1 file changed, 67 insertions(+), 22 deletions(-)
> > > 
> > > Applied, thanks.
> > > 
> > > Jan, what about to create udf(5) man page? We already have fs-specific
> > > man pages (e.g. ext4, tmpfs, nfs, btrfs, ...). It's usually maintained
> > > within fs-specific tools (e.g. ext4 -> e2fsprogs) or together with
> > > standard man-pages (CC: to Michael).
> > 
> > I'm fine with that. Pali is actually the maintainer of udf-tools so if he
> > is willing to take the manpage there, it's probably the best place.
> 
> Is udftools the best place for kernel udf mount options? Because
> userspace udftools are not needed for kernel udf driver, nor for
> mounting existing udf filesystem.

This is reason why Michael is in CC: :-)

> For me it looks like that kernel drivers should have its documentation
> in kernel itself...
> 
> Anyway, I have not know yet that there is e.g. ext4 manpage which
> describe mount options. I was always looking into mount.8 manpage for
> filesystem mount parameters.

There is no extN stuff anymore in mount.8.

> The only missing filesystem in mount.8 is nfs, but that is probably
> because mount uses mount.nfs helper.

Unfortunately, it's nothing unusual that mount.8 is ignored by FS
devels and not up to date... so the idea is keep FS docs near to 
the FS developers to improve things ;-) 

For example NFS developers have decided to maintain it in nfs-utils,
extN in e2fsprogs, tmpfs and procfs in Michaels' man-pages, etc.

Anyway, I have no problem to maintain UDF (or another) mount options 
in mount.8. It's your choice. Your patches for mount.8 are welcomed.

    Karel

-- 
 Karel Zak  <kzak@redhat.com>
 http://karelzak.blogspot.com

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* Re: [PATCH 1/1] Update mount options for UDF
  2018-03-01 11:08       ` Karel Zak
@ 2018-03-01 17:24         ` Pali Rohár
  2018-04-19 15:25           ` Pali Rohár
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Pali Rohár @ 2018-03-01 17:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Karel Zak; +Cc: Jan Kara, Steve Kenton, util-linux, Michael Kerrisk

On Thursday 01 March 2018 12:08:51 Karel Zak wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 11:03:19PM +0100, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > On Wednesday 28 February 2018 14:32:20 Jan Kara wrote:
> > > On Wed 28-02-18 14:08:28, Karel Zak wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 12:44:07PM -0600, Steve Kenton wrote:
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Steve Kenton <skenton@ou.edu>
> > > > > Acked-by: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
> > > > > ---
> > > > >  sys-utils/mount.8 | 89 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--------------
> > > > >  1 file changed, 67 insertions(+), 22 deletions(-)
> > > > 
> > > > Applied, thanks.
> > > > 
> > > > Jan, what about to create udf(5) man page? We already have fs-specific
> > > > man pages (e.g. ext4, tmpfs, nfs, btrfs, ...). It's usually maintained
> > > > within fs-specific tools (e.g. ext4 -> e2fsprogs) or together with
> > > > standard man-pages (CC: to Michael).
> > > 
> > > I'm fine with that. Pali is actually the maintainer of udf-tools so if he
> > > is willing to take the manpage there, it's probably the best place.
> > 
> > Is udftools the best place for kernel udf mount options? Because
> > userspace udftools are not needed for kernel udf driver, nor for
> > mounting existing udf filesystem.
> 
> This is reason why Michael is in CC: :-)

Ok :-)

> > For me it looks like that kernel drivers should have its documentation
> > in kernel itself...
> > 
> > Anyway, I have not know yet that there is e.g. ext4 manpage which
> > describe mount options. I was always looking into mount.8 manpage for
> > filesystem mount parameters.
> 
> There is no extN stuff anymore in mount.8.

Ah, ok. I have Debian stable on servers which has older mount.8 with
ext* options.

> > The only missing filesystem in mount.8 is nfs, but that is probably
> > because mount uses mount.nfs helper.
> 
> Unfortunately, it's nothing unusual that mount.8 is ignored by FS
> devels and not up to date... so the idea is keep FS docs near to 
> the FS developers to improve things ;-) 
> 
> For example NFS developers have decided to maintain it in nfs-utils,
> extN in e2fsprogs, tmpfs and procfs in Michaels' man-pages, etc.
> 
> Anyway, I have no problem to maintain UDF (or another) mount options 
> in mount.8. It's your choice. Your patches for mount.8 are welcomed.

So wait for Michael answer...

-- 
Pali Rohár
pali.rohar@gmail.com

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* Re: [PATCH 1/1] Update mount options for UDF
  2018-03-01 17:24         ` Pali Rohár
@ 2018-04-19 15:25           ` Pali Rohár
  2018-04-20  8:27             ` Karel Zak
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Pali Rohár @ 2018-04-19 15:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Karel Zak; +Cc: Jan Kara, Steve Kenton, util-linux, Michael Kerrisk

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On Thursday 01 March 2018 18:24:08 Pali Rohár wrote:
> On Thursday 01 March 2018 12:08:51 Karel Zak wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 11:03:19PM +0100, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 28 February 2018 14:32:20 Jan Kara wrote:
> > > > On Wed 28-02-18 14:08:28, Karel Zak wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 12:44:07PM -0600, Steve Kenton wrote:
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Steve Kenton <skenton@ou.edu>
> > > > > > Acked-by: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > >  sys-utils/mount.8 | 89 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--------------
> > > > > >  1 file changed, 67 insertions(+), 22 deletions(-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > Applied, thanks.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Jan, what about to create udf(5) man page? We already have fs-specific
> > > > > man pages (e.g. ext4, tmpfs, nfs, btrfs, ...). It's usually maintained
> > > > > within fs-specific tools (e.g. ext4 -> e2fsprogs) or together with
> > > > > standard man-pages (CC: to Michael).
> > > > 
> > > > I'm fine with that. Pali is actually the maintainer of udf-tools so if he
> > > > is willing to take the manpage there, it's probably the best place.
> > > 
> > > Is udftools the best place for kernel udf mount options? Because
> > > userspace udftools are not needed for kernel udf driver, nor for
> > > mounting existing udf filesystem.
> > 
> > This is reason why Michael is in CC: :-)
> 
> Ok :-)
> 
> > > For me it looks like that kernel drivers should have its documentation
> > > in kernel itself...
> > > 
> > > Anyway, I have not know yet that there is e.g. ext4 manpage which
> > > describe mount options. I was always looking into mount.8 manpage for
> > > filesystem mount parameters.
> > 
> > There is no extN stuff anymore in mount.8.
> 
> Ah, ok. I have Debian stable on servers which has older mount.8 with
> ext* options.
> 
> > > The only missing filesystem in mount.8 is nfs, but that is probably
> > > because mount uses mount.nfs helper.
> > 
> > Unfortunately, it's nothing unusual that mount.8 is ignored by FS
> > devels and not up to date... so the idea is keep FS docs near to 
> > the FS developers to improve things ;-) 
> > 
> > For example NFS developers have decided to maintain it in nfs-utils,
> > extN in e2fsprogs, tmpfs and procfs in Michaels' man-pages, etc.
> > 
> > Anyway, I have no problem to maintain UDF (or another) mount options 
> > in mount.8. It's your choice. Your patches for mount.8 are welcomed.
> 
> So wait for Michael answer...

So do you have any answer?

In the meanwhile I created a small update, check if it is OK:
https://github.com/karelzak/util-linux/pull/622

-- 
Pali Rohár
pali.rohar@gmail.com

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* Re: [PATCH 1/1] Update mount options for UDF
  2018-04-19 15:25           ` Pali Rohár
@ 2018-04-20  8:27             ` Karel Zak
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Karel Zak @ 2018-04-20  8:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Pali Rohár; +Cc: Jan Kara, Steve Kenton, util-linux, Michael Kerrisk

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 05:25:42PM +0200, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > So wait for Michael answer...
> 
> So do you have any answer?
> 
> In the meanwhile I created a small update, check if it is OK:
> https://github.com/karelzak/util-linux/pull/622

Merged :-)

    Karel

-- 
 Karel Zak  <kzak@redhat.com>
 http://karelzak.blogspot.com

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* Re: [PATCH 1/1] Update mount options for UDF
  2018-02-28 22:03     ` Pali Rohár
  2018-03-01 11:08       ` Karel Zak
@ 2018-05-06 10:35       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-opages)
  2018-05-06 11:15         ` Pali Rohár
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Michael Kerrisk (man-opages) @ 2018-05-06 10:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Pali Rohár, Jan Kara
  Cc: mtk.manpages, Karel Zak, Steve Kenton, util-linux

On 02/28/2018 11:03 PM, Pali Rohár wrote:
> On Wednesday 28 February 2018 14:32:20 Jan Kara wrote:
>> On Wed 28-02-18 14:08:28, Karel Zak wrote:
>>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 12:44:07PM -0600, Steve Kenton wrote:
>>>> Signed-off-by: Steve Kenton <skenton@ou.edu>
>>>> Acked-by: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
>>>> ---
>>>>   sys-utils/mount.8 | 89 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--------------
>>>>   1 file changed, 67 insertions(+), 22 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> Applied, thanks.
>>>
>>> Jan, what about to create udf(5) man page? We already have fs-specific
>>> man pages (e.g. ext4, tmpfs, nfs, btrfs, ...). It's usually maintained
>>> within fs-specific tools (e.g. ext4 -> e2fsprogs) or together with
>>> standard man-pages (CC: to Michael).
>>
>> I'm fine with that. Pali is actually the maintainer of udf-tools so if he
>> is willing to take the manpage there, it's probably the best place.
> 
> Is udftools the best place for kernel udf mount options? Because
> userspace udftools are not needed for kernel udf driver, nor for
> mounting existing udf filesystem.
> 
> For me it looks like that kernel drivers should have its documentation
> in kernel itself...

[way late to the party...]

Or, better, in a man page that describes the kernel interface :-).
Many other filesystems have by now Section 5 pages in the man-pages 
package that I maintain. A udf(5) page that describes the mount options 
that the kernel supports for UDF would be best, and I think best lives 
inside "man-pages" because it is kernel interface stuff.

Or, did such a page already land in udf-tools?

Cheers,

Michael

> Anyway, I have not know yet that there is e.g. ext4 manpage which
> describe mount options. I was always looking into mount.8 manpage for
> filesystem mount parameters.
> 
> The only missing filesystem in mount.8 is nfs, but that is probably
> because mount uses mount.nfs helper.
> 

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* Re: [PATCH 1/1] Update mount options for UDF
  2018-05-06 10:35       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-opages)
@ 2018-05-06 11:15         ` Pali Rohár
  2018-08-08 13:52           ` Pali Rohár
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Pali Rohár @ 2018-05-06 11:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Kerrisk (man-opages)
  Cc: Jan Kara, Karel Zak, Steve Kenton, util-linux

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On Sunday 06 May 2018 12:35:02 Michael Kerrisk (man-opages) wrote:
> On 02/28/2018 11:03 PM, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > On Wednesday 28 February 2018 14:32:20 Jan Kara wrote:
> > > On Wed 28-02-18 14:08:28, Karel Zak wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 12:44:07PM -0600, Steve Kenton wrote:
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Steve Kenton <skenton@ou.edu>
> > > > > Acked-by: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
> > > > > ---
> > > > >   sys-utils/mount.8 | 89 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--------------
> > > > >   1 file changed, 67 insertions(+), 22 deletions(-)
> > > > 
> > > > Applied, thanks.
> > > > 
> > > > Jan, what about to create udf(5) man page? We already have fs-specific
> > > > man pages (e.g. ext4, tmpfs, nfs, btrfs, ...). It's usually maintained
> > > > within fs-specific tools (e.g. ext4 -> e2fsprogs) or together with
> > > > standard man-pages (CC: to Michael).
> > > 
> > > I'm fine with that. Pali is actually the maintainer of udf-tools so if he
> > > is willing to take the manpage there, it's probably the best place.
> > 
> > Is udftools the best place for kernel udf mount options? Because
> > userspace udftools are not needed for kernel udf driver, nor for
> > mounting existing udf filesystem.
> > 
> > For me it looks like that kernel drivers should have its documentation
> > in kernel itself...
> 
> [way late to the party...]
> 
> Or, better, in a man page that describes the kernel interface :-).
> Many other filesystems have by now Section 5 pages in the man-pages package
> that I maintain. A udf(5) page that describes the mount options that the
> kernel supports for UDF would be best, and I think best lives inside
> "man-pages" because it is kernel interface stuff.

Ok, that sounds good.

> Or, did such a page already land in udf-tools?

No, there is no such manpage.

-- 
Pali Rohár
pali.rohar@gmail.com

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* Re: [PATCH 1/1] Update mount options for UDF
  2018-05-06 11:15         ` Pali Rohár
@ 2018-08-08 13:52           ` Pali Rohár
  2018-08-13 10:01             ` Karel Zak
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Pali Rohár @ 2018-08-08 13:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Kerrisk (man-opages)
  Cc: Jan Kara, Karel Zak, Steve Kenton, util-linux

On Sunday 06 May 2018 13:15:27 Pali Rohár wrote:
> On Sunday 06 May 2018 12:35:02 Michael Kerrisk (man-opages) wrote:
> > On 02/28/2018 11:03 PM, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 28 February 2018 14:32:20 Jan Kara wrote:
> > > > On Wed 28-02-18 14:08:28, Karel Zak wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 12:44:07PM -0600, Steve Kenton wrote:
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Steve Kenton <skenton@ou.edu>
> > > > > > Acked-by: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > >   sys-utils/mount.8 | 89 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--------------
> > > > > >   1 file changed, 67 insertions(+), 22 deletions(-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > Applied, thanks.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Jan, what about to create udf(5) man page? We already have fs-specific
> > > > > man pages (e.g. ext4, tmpfs, nfs, btrfs, ...). It's usually maintained
> > > > > within fs-specific tools (e.g. ext4 -> e2fsprogs) or together with
> > > > > standard man-pages (CC: to Michael).
> > > > 
> > > > I'm fine with that. Pali is actually the maintainer of udf-tools so if he
> > > > is willing to take the manpage there, it's probably the best place.
> > > 
> > > Is udftools the best place for kernel udf mount options? Because
> > > userspace udftools are not needed for kernel udf driver, nor for
> > > mounting existing udf filesystem.
> > > 
> > > For me it looks like that kernel drivers should have its documentation
> > > in kernel itself...
> > 
> > [way late to the party...]
> > 
> > Or, better, in a man page that describes the kernel interface :-).
> > Many other filesystems have by now Section 5 pages in the man-pages package
> > that I maintain. A udf(5) page that describes the mount options that the
> > kernel supports for UDF would be best, and I think best lives inside
> > "man-pages" because it is kernel interface stuff.
> 
> Ok, that sounds good.
> 
> > Or, did such a page already land in udf-tools?
> 
> No, there is no such manpage.

Karel, Michael, has something happened here?

-- 
Pali Rohár
pali.rohar@gmail.com

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* Re: [PATCH 1/1] Update mount options for UDF
  2018-08-08 13:52           ` Pali Rohár
@ 2018-08-13 10:01             ` Karel Zak
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Karel Zak @ 2018-08-13 10:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Pali Rohár
  Cc: Michael Kerrisk (man-opages), Jan Kara, Steve Kenton, util-linux

On Wed, Aug 08, 2018 at 03:52:58PM +0200, Pali Rohár wrote:
> On Sunday 06 May 2018 13:15:27 Pali Rohár wrote:
> > On Sunday 06 May 2018 12:35:02 Michael Kerrisk (man-opages) wrote:
> > > On 02/28/2018 11:03 PM, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday 28 February 2018 14:32:20 Jan Kara wrote:
> > > > > On Wed 28-02-18 14:08:28, Karel Zak wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 12:44:07PM -0600, Steve Kenton wrote:
> > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Steve Kenton <skenton@ou.edu>
> > > > > > > Acked-by: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
> > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > >   sys-utils/mount.8 | 89 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--------------
> > > > > > >   1 file changed, 67 insertions(+), 22 deletions(-)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Applied, thanks.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Jan, what about to create udf(5) man page? We already have fs-specific
> > > > > > man pages (e.g. ext4, tmpfs, nfs, btrfs, ...). It's usually maintained
> > > > > > within fs-specific tools (e.g. ext4 -> e2fsprogs) or together with
> > > > > > standard man-pages (CC: to Michael).
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'm fine with that. Pali is actually the maintainer of udf-tools so if he
> > > > > is willing to take the manpage there, it's probably the best place.
> > > > 
> > > > Is udftools the best place for kernel udf mount options? Because
> > > > userspace udftools are not needed for kernel udf driver, nor for
> > > > mounting existing udf filesystem.
> > > > 
> > > > For me it looks like that kernel drivers should have its documentation
> > > > in kernel itself...
> > > 
> > > [way late to the party...]
> > > 
> > > Or, better, in a man page that describes the kernel interface :-).
> > > Many other filesystems have by now Section 5 pages in the man-pages package
> > > that I maintain. A udf(5) page that describes the mount options that the
> > > kernel supports for UDF would be best, and I think best lives inside
> > > "man-pages" because it is kernel interface stuff.
> > 
> > Ok, that sounds good.
> > 
> > > Or, did such a page already land in udf-tools?
> > 
> > No, there is no such manpage.
> 
> Karel, Michael, has something happened here?

I have thought that the ball is on UDF playground :-) If you create
udf.5 (for man-pages or udf-tools) than I'll remove udf stuff from
the mount.8 man page.

    Karel

-- 
 Karel Zak  <kzak@redhat.com>
 http://karelzak.blogspot.com

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2018-02-27 18:44 [PATCH 1/1] Update mount options for UDF Steve Kenton
2018-02-28 13:08 ` Karel Zak
2018-02-28 13:32   ` Jan Kara
2018-02-28 22:03     ` Pali Rohár
2018-03-01 11:08       ` Karel Zak
2018-03-01 17:24         ` Pali Rohár
2018-04-19 15:25           ` Pali Rohár
2018-04-20  8:27             ` Karel Zak
2018-05-06 10:35       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-opages)
2018-05-06 11:15         ` Pali Rohár
2018-08-08 13:52           ` Pali Rohár
2018-08-13 10:01             ` Karel Zak

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