From: Karel Zak <kzak@redhat.com>
To: Bruce Dubbs <bruce.dubbs@gmail.com>
Cc: Util-Linux <util-linux@vger.kernel.org>,
J William Piggott <elseifthen@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: Suggested changes to util-linux for FHS compliance.
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2021 12:21:59 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210308112159.yblk5ucy6uxahlho@ws.net.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210219113009.mav3dis3qzofru4c@ws.net.home>
On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 12:30:12PM +0100, Karel Zak wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 10:16:30AM +0100, Karel Zak wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 11:04:59AM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> > > I don't recall if this has come up before, but I suggest a couple of changes
> > > to the default util-linux build configuuration:
> > >
> > > 1. Change the default ADJTIME_PATH to be /var/lib/hwclock/adjtime
> >
> > Good idea. I'll do that.
>
> Hmm... I remembered now that we have in our TODO:
>
> hwclock
> ------
> - use /var/lib/hwclock/drift to store hw-clock drift numbers.
> - use /etc/adjtime as read-only for UTC/LOCAL information only
> - the /var/lib/hwclock/drift should be implemented backwardly compatible,
> it means use the file only if exists, otherwise follow /etc/adjtime
>
> so maybe the best would be to keep ADJTIME_PATH=/etc/adjtime and use
> it as read-only and use ${localstatedir}/lib/hwclock/drift for the
> rest.
>
> Note that ADJTIME_PATH is used by more utils, like rtcwake or systemd,
> so move it is not so easy.
OK, I have implemented it, but frankly, I'm not sure about it ;-)
I have added William to CC:, maybe he will come with comments.
See https://github.com/karelzak/util-linux/tree/topic/hwclock-drift-file
branch.
The idea is to keep /etc/adjtime as a source for UTC/LOCAL flag, but
hwclock drift info (which we need to update occasionally) move to
/var/lib/hwclock/drift. The /etc/adjtime is de-facto standard and
move it means that 3rd party utils will have no way how to determine
hwclock UTC/LOCAL mode.
Both files use "adjtime" file format to make it simple to convert
from one to another.
The change should be backwardly compatible. If you do not have /var/lib/hwclock/drift
then it falls back to /etc/adjtime.
I'm not sure if this is not over-engineering. Maybe the current
solution is good enough, and all we need is to make it more
use-friendly to set ADJTIME_PATH for users like Bruce (although
maintain any status information in /etc (in the year 2021) is not
nice.
The another possibility is to make a real change. Introduce completely
new file in /etc (/etc/clockmode) with only UTC/LOCAL(, force all
applications to use it (I know about rtcwake and systemd), and keep
/var/lib/hwclock/drift as private hwclock(1) file in a private format.
Karel
--
Karel Zak <kzak@redhat.com>
http://karelzak.blogspot.com
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Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-02-12 17:04 Suggested changes to util-linux for FHS compliance Bruce Dubbs
2021-02-15 9:16 ` Karel Zak
2021-02-18 15:37 ` Bruce Dubbs
2021-02-19 11:14 ` Karel Zak
2021-02-19 17:12 ` Bruce Dubbs
2021-02-19 11:30 ` Karel Zak
2021-03-08 11:21 ` Karel Zak [this message]
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