From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN, FREEMAIL_FROM,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5C54C32789 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 16:19:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from krantz.zx2c4.com (krantz.zx2c4.com [192.95.5.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 092412081D for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 16:19:39 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key) header.d=yahoo.com header.i=@yahoo.com header.b="CJUUE03G" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 092412081D Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=reject dis=none) header.from=yahoo.com Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=wireguard-bounces@lists.zx2c4.com Received: from krantz.zx2c4.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by krantz.zx2c4.com (ZX2C4 Mail Server) with ESMTP id edf43275; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 16:15:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from krantz.zx2c4.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by krantz.zx2c4.com (ZX2C4 Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3a70c91d for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 16:15:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sonic308-36.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (sonic308-36.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.137.68.60]) by krantz.zx2c4.com (ZX2C4 Mail Server) with ESMTP id d2c7c4dd for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 16:15:02 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1541521164; bh=PX7YWpadgkXIgAAF9NpQL/2AvUqFHCiggooWdjxP3HY=; h=Date:From:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=CJUUE03GvJBUswYlGBQc2xCblBsYLti7ygQAm+raLNIQze626nUpv0THjKunnxGivmFLo8TEocVh7LYmoytLrFjlcMeRfU1XLir9dCA/jEKAEhWyUuZKyIMPuEMDkx1k3T2e5r+FWXuwnNYZ+a/BYKTmGP0aSGM+UmeNyxBpOyQKjTRblypadgo4A9paRLAow7MzhlZngwlxhcC7hY8eNO7iaNeAYYlibthSRr98bhWZ2AgNw/6JkwUBLeMHd8+qThZVaZux5WHvBpmiXkeECd731ToQjVMHeSCIw2nB5gjMfaWpsTezueDcJTzGJIzlRjauz5so9NBtw7QWV8hbPQ== X-YMail-OSG: tonRE78VM1mQSJZJ1tEo6x3Np34lEzYzw8cHp.4GpIcx7AmZ4yIUGve3b4luDUb OVMjjBEux6LrI.RsysR4xQwiTcPKanbeKAkK0OxNVbzPbfe5j7_k2LXrpENqaM0BEk6TyUPG1F31 BxdV5Xrz4U3SdI9tv2ZlcYqFvzB9yrrR2EAY_6q_YIoqbD8JT.Z.sXpkJVAlyH4GNdFO1OLCkgBJ LkYrS_iS07xqXcrryxiWtu013t3QDgaYaaKfsgxYJgfshV14gP2Bvy8LvNctUmltbLYqzCQPm67i ioZ.yO4W2QPUhzPATuXiVN83_izuzQYcWNwZDYbyGus_ocF_jmACneGtNaxCDwuA_iiQ.3.vm6_. 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Question for you... not sure how familiar you are with iOS kernel internals, but considering Apple's "Interest in privacy," what would it take for iOS to have similar kernel changes to support Wireguard natively akin to IKEv2, etc? Keep in mind that Darwin - iOS/macOS underpinnings are FreeBSD based. Thanks,Jose On Monday, November 5, 2018, 9:06 PM, Jose Marinez wrote: Thank you Jason and all those involved. Question for you... not sure how familiar you are with iOS kernel internals, but considering Apple's "Interest in privacy," what would it take for iOS to have similar kernel changes to support Wireguard natively akin to IKEv2, etc? Keep in mind that Darwin - iOS/macOS underpinnings are FreeBSD based. Thanks,Jose On Monday, November 5, 2018, 4:27 PM, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: Hey folks, For the last few weeks, Roopesh and I have been hard at work on the WireGuard for iOS app. Today we're happy to share a likely-buggy-and-broken TestFlight that you can run on your phone: . As usual, use at your own risk, especially since it's alpha quality. Please let us know about any bugs as you find them -- you can send them to me or to team@wireguard.com. Our current TODO list lives here [1], linked via the main project TODO list [2], and if you're an iOS person and want to contribute code, we'd be happy to have you on board. The app costs $3.99 and requires an email address to sign up; we manage all your tunnels for you in the cloud. JUST KIDDING! Like the rest of WireGuard, the iOS app is free and open source [3]. I make this rather tasteless joke, because of the rather surprising quantities of people encouraging me to do the iOS stuff as proprietary paid software, because "apple users will pay" or because "open source is cool, but iphone folks don't care about it so you can get away with charging" or because "none of the other vpn players are doing open source mobile implementations" or even because "apple is more likely to accept paid software into its app store" and so on and so forth. But, as usual, I much prefer for this to be a community project than a closed one, and so like everything else, it's FLOSS. Enjoy! And do let us know about the bugs as you run into them. I'm sure there are plenty. Regards, Jason [1] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BnzImOF8CkungFnuRlWhnEpY2OmEHSckat62aZ6LYGY [2] https://www.wireguard.com/todo/ [3] https://git.zx2c4.com/wireguard-ios/ _______________________________________________ WireGuard mailing list WireGuard@lists.zx2c4.com https://lists.zx2c4.com/mailman/listinfo/wireguard ------=_Part_1785667_737389839.1541520920275 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you Jason and all those involved. Question for you... = not sure how familiar you are with iOS kernel internals, but considering Ap= ple's "Interest in privacy," what would it take for iOS to have similar ker= nel changes to support Wireguard natively akin to IKEv2, etc? Keep in mind = that Darwin - iOS/macOS underpinnings are FreeBSD based.


Thanks,
Jose
=

On Monday, November 5, 2018, 9:06 PM, Jose= Marinez <jedi_papi@yahoo.com> wrote:

Thank you Jason and all those involved. Question for you... not sure how fa= miliar you are with iOS kernel internals, but considering Apple's "Interest= in privacy," what would it take for iOS to have similar kernel changes to = support Wireguard natively akin to IKEv2, etc? Keep in mind that Darwin - i= OS/macOS underpinnings are FreeBSD based.


Thanks,
Jose

On Monday, November 5, 2018, 4:27 PM, Jason A. Do= nenfeld <Jason@zx2c4.com> wrote:

Hey folks,

For the last few weeks, Roop= esh and I have been hard at work on the
WireGuard for iOS app. Today we're happy to share a
likely-buggy-and-broken TestFlight that you can run= on your phone:
own risk, especiall= y since it's alpha quality.

Please let us know about any bugs as yo= u find them -- you can send
them t= o me or to team@wiregu= ard.com. Our current TODO list lives here
[1], linked via the main project TODO list [2], and if you're a= n iOS
person and want to contribut= e code, we'd be happy to have you on
board.

The app costs $3.99 and requires an email address to sign= up; we
manage all your tunnels fo= r you in the cloud. JUST KIDDING! Like the
rest of WireGuard, the iOS app is free and open source [3]. I make=
this rather tasteless joke, becau= se of the rather surprising
quanti= ties of people encouraging me to do the iOS stuff as proprietary
paid software, because "apple users will p= ay" or because "open source
is coo= l, but iphone folks don't care about it so you can get away with
charging" or because "none of the other vp= n players are doing open
source mo= bile implementations" or even because "apple is more likely
to accept paid software into its app store" and s= o on and so forth.
But, as usual, = I much prefer for this to be a community project than a
<= /div>
closed one, and so like everything else, it's FLOSS.<= br clear=3D"none">

Enjoy! And do let us know about the bugs as you run into them. I'm=
sure there are plenty.

= Regards,
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