* CryptoKey Routing Management for Peers
@ 2020-02-07 16:23 Barrett Strausser
2020-02-08 21:29 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
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From: Barrett Strausser @ 2020-02-07 16:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: wireguard
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Hello All,
I have question correlated but not exactly related to Wireguard.
Following the lines on the project page "It is suitable for both small
embedded devices like smartphones and fully loaded backbone routers"
How are folks thinking about the management of the CryptoKey Routing for
large number of peers especially embedded devices. I have on order of 100K
- 1M Devices.
Would Wireguard ever consider a API/Interface call instead of a static file?
Thank you all,
-Barrett
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* Re: CryptoKey Routing Management for Peers
2020-02-07 16:23 CryptoKey Routing Management for Peers Barrett Strausser
@ 2020-02-08 21:29 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2020-02-10 14:07 ` Barrett Strausser
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From: Jason A. Donenfeld @ 2020-02-08 21:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Barrett Strausser; +Cc: WireGuard mailing list
WireGuard has an API, via Netlink. This might help you:
https://git.zx2c4.com/wireguard-tools/tree/contrib/embeddable-wg-library
https://git.zx2c4.com/wireguard-tools/tree/src/uapi/linux/wireguard.h
It can handle 1M peers, yes.
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* Re: CryptoKey Routing Management for Peers
2020-02-08 21:29 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
@ 2020-02-10 14:07 ` Barrett Strausser
2020-02-14 23:40 ` Derrick Lyndon Pallas
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From: Barrett Strausser @ 2020-02-10 14:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jason A. Donenfeld; +Cc: WireGuard mailing list
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I don't doubt that it can handle 1M peers.
My question was more concerned with can an *Organization *perform the
configuration management to handle 1M peers if all configuration is through
a static IP.
If I have 1M peers and .9999 have no change per day, that still leaves 100
changes or ~4 per hour. I'd argue it is a good practice to have to restart
services to pick up those changes.
I'll have a look at those links. Thank you very much
-b
On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 4:29 PM Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@zx2c4.com> wrote:
> WireGuard has an API, via Netlink. This might help you:
>
> https://git.zx2c4.com/wireguard-tools/tree/contrib/embeddable-wg-library
> https://git.zx2c4.com/wireguard-tools/tree/src/uapi/linux/wireguard.h
>
> It can handle 1M peers, yes.
>
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* Re: CryptoKey Routing Management for Peers
2020-02-10 14:07 ` Barrett Strausser
@ 2020-02-14 23:40 ` Derrick Lyndon Pallas
2020-02-15 0:13 ` Mo Balaa
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From: Derrick Lyndon Pallas @ 2020-02-14 23:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Barrett Strausser; +Cc: WireGuard mailing list
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You might also want to check out https://pypi.org/project/wgnlpy/ which is a Wireguard configuration library for python.
~Derrick • iPhone
> On Feb 14, 2020, at 3:02 AM, Barrett Strausser <barrett@bossanova.com> wrote:
>
>
> I don't doubt that it can handle 1M peers.
>
> My question was more concerned with can an Organization perform the configuration management to handle 1M peers if all configuration is through a static IP.
>
> If I have 1M peers and .9999 have no change per day, that still leaves 100 changes or ~4 per hour. I'd argue it is a good practice to have to restart services to pick up those changes.
>
> I'll have a look at those links. Thank you very much
>
> -b
>
>
>
>> On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 4:29 PM Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@zx2c4.com> wrote:
>> WireGuard has an API, via Netlink. This might help you:
>>
>> https://git.zx2c4.com/wireguard-tools/tree/contrib/embeddable-wg-library
>> https://git.zx2c4.com/wireguard-tools/tree/src/uapi/linux/wireguard.h
>>
>> It can handle 1M peers, yes.
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* Re: CryptoKey Routing Management for Peers
2020-02-14 23:40 ` Derrick Lyndon Pallas
@ 2020-02-15 0:13 ` Mo Balaa
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From: Mo Balaa @ 2020-02-15 0:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Derrick Lyndon Pallas; +Cc: WireGuard mailing list
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My company will be open sourcing a configuration management system we’ve
called wg-easy. It is designed specifically for managing large scale
distributed WireGuard networks. We are happy to see other are interested in
operating WireGuard at scale.
Coming very soon, TM.
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 17:46 Derrick Lyndon Pallas <derrick@pallas.us>
wrote:
> You might also want to check out https://pypi.org/project/wgnlpy/ which
> is a Wireguard configuration library for python.
>
> ~Derrick • iPhone
>
> On Feb 14, 2020, at 3:02 AM, Barrett Strausser <barrett@bossanova.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> I don't doubt that it can handle 1M peers.
>
> My question was more concerned with can an *Organization *perform the
> configuration management to handle 1M peers if all configuration is through
> a static IP.
>
> If I have 1M peers and .9999 have no change per day, that still leaves 100
> changes or ~4 per hour. I'd argue it is a good practice to have to restart
> services to pick up those changes.
>
> I'll have a look at those links. Thank you very much
>
> -b
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 4:29 PM Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@zx2c4.com> wrote:
>
>> WireGuard has an API, via Netlink. This might help you:
>>
>> https://git.zx2c4.com/wireguard-tools/tree/contrib/embeddable-wg-library
>> https://git.zx2c4.com/wireguard-tools/tree/src/uapi/linux/wireguard.h
>>
>> It can handle 1M peers, yes.
>>
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