Re: binary module for arch?

From: John <graysky@archlinux.us>
To: Davide Depau <davide@depau.eu>
Cc: Christian Hesse <mail@eworm.de>,
	WireGuard mailing list <wireguard@lists.zx2c4.com>
Subject: Re: binary module for arch?
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 11:11:30 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAO_nJAYw_zbNBsxtaKbR=kxp-+E4d2VkzUfrWtnSn26ZVkuEMw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMp63jVKAeieefottP=EwYMeo0daD5GDxwpT1PiPPOZQkQ6gSA@mail.gmail.com>

Our package manager, pacman, will display optional dependencies to
users/most known to inspect the output.

My recommendation is to change the wording under the command on your
install page to something like: "Users of the distro provided kernels
(linux and linux-lts) may download the requisite corresponding
precompiled wireguard module. Users of custom kernels will require the
wireguard-dkms package and corresponding kernel headers to compile the
module."

For your info, example pacman output that most Arch users will be
accustom to reading upon installation of the wireguard-tools package:

% sudo pacman -S wireguard-tools
resolving dependencies...
looking for conflicting packages...

Packages (1) wireguard-tools-0.0.20181218-2

Total Installed Size:  0.21 MiB

:: Proceed with installation? [Y/n]
(1/1) checking keys in keyring
[#############################] 100%
(1/1) checking package integrity
[#############################] 100%
(1/1) loading package files
[#############################] 100%
(1/1) checking for file conflicts
[#############################] 100%
:: Processing package changes...
(1/1) installing wireguard-tools
[#############################] 100%
Optional dependencies for wireguard-tools
    openresolv: for DNS functionality [installed]
    wireguard-dkms: wireguard module, built by dkms
    wireguard-arch: wireguard module for linux
    wireguard-lts: wireguard module for linux-lts
:: Running post-transaction hooks...
(1/2) Reloading system manager configuration...
(2/2) Arming ConditionNeedsUpdate...

On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 8:50 PM Davide Depau <davide@depau.eu> wrote:
>
> Hi Jason,
> sorry for sneaking into the conversation but I'm currently using wireguard-dkms. I think deprecating it would be a bad idea: anyone who uses a custom kernel cannot use the binary modules.
> I'm currently using linux-hardened on my server (yeah, I run Arch Linux on my personal server lol) and rely on the dkms package for the wireguard module.
> Binary packages should probably be preferred for those who use the default kernels, however not everyone does.
> That being said I really hope WireGuard makes it to mainline soon ;)
>
> Regards,
> Davide
>
> On Mon, Dec 31, 2018, 1:59 AM Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@zx2c4.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Christian,
>>
>> I noticed there are now two distro-built packages for wireguard for
>> arch -- wireguard-lts and wireguard-arch. These seem probably more
>> convenient for most people than the dkms one. What would you recommend
>> in terms of updating wireguard.com/install/ ? And do you plan on
>> depreciating the dkms one at some point, or do you think it will
>> remain useful for certain users?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jason
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