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From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: rostedt@goodmis.org
Cc: mchehab@kernel.org, skhan@linuxfoundation.org,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, patchwork@lists.ozlabs.org,
	workflows@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: RFE: use patchwork to submit a patch
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 11:32:54 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191011.113254.1964556815296845399.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191011140108.589bbb52@gandalf.local.home>

From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 14:01:08 -0400

> Thus, if we want people to send us their fixes, we better keep just
> an email with a patch the lowest bar for entry.

I argue that for people coming into the software engineering world
today, a PR is the lowest bar for entry.  And email is the exact
opposite, _especially_ our way of doing email.

Because it IS NOT just an email with a patch.

It is an email with a specific Subject line format, with various
fields.  Some field are optional and some are mandatory, and it also
depends upon which tree you are targetting.

Then there is the commit message which has content and formatting
requirements.

And then there are the tags, of various types and flavors, and the
context (which is sometimes subtle) determines which of those tags are
relevant and how they should be filled in.

The various other standard email fields like TO: and CC: have to
be set a certain way otherwise the patch won't even be looked at.

If you think all of this stuff is a low barrier to entry you are
frankly kidding yourself.

It is ONLY a low barrier to entry for an experienced Linux kernel
developer.  Full stop.

You are not helping casual contributors with this "simple" email based
submission method.  It is understood and easy us, but nobody else.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-11 18:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-10 14:41 RFE: use patchwork to submit a patch Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-10-10 18:07 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-10 19:42   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-10 19:53   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-10-10 20:05     ` Eric Wong
2019-10-10 20:21       ` Jonathan Nieder
2019-10-10 20:36         ` Eric Wong
2019-10-11 18:05     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-10 20:20 ` Jonathan Nieder
2019-10-10 21:38 ` Daniel Axtens
2019-10-10 22:05   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-10-11  8:57 ` Greg KH
2019-10-11 17:20   ` Shuah Khan
2019-10-11 17:37     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-11 18:01       ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-11 18:32         ` David Miller [this message]
2019-10-11 18:44           ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-11 18:51             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-11 18:59           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-11 19:02             ` Drew DeVault
2019-10-11 19:11             ` David Miller
2019-10-11 21:19               ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-10-11 21:47                 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-11 22:54                   ` Dave Airlie
2019-10-11 23:00                     ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-12  0:08                       ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-10-12  0:14                         ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-13 23:38                         ` Daniel Axtens
2019-10-14 10:42                           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-14 12:26                             ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-14 13:18                               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-14 13:41                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-14 13:53                                 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-14 14:28                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-14 15:25                                     ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-10-14 12:27                             ` Daniel Axtens
2019-10-14 13:19                           ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-14 14:58     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-14 15:12       ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-10-15  4:49         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-15 16:30           ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-10-14 15:17       ` Greg KH
2019-10-14 15:27         ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-10-15  4:41         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-15 16:07           ` Greg KH
2019-10-14 20:56       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-15  4:39         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-15 12:37         ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-15 13:35           ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-15 14:05             ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-15 15:21             ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-10-15 16:37           ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-10-15 16:47             ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-21 15:39               ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-10-24 13:15                 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-24 13:33                   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-24 13:58                     ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-24 14:12                       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-15  8:57       ` Eric Wong
2019-10-15  9:11         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-15 16:24           ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-10-15 16:27           ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-10-21 11:16       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-11-08  9:44       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-11-08 14:02         ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-11-08 14:11           ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-11-08 14:12             ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-11-08 14:17               ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-11-08 14:25                 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-11-09  4:31                   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-11-11  9:35                     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-11-11 12:08                       ` Mark Brown
2019-11-11 16:17                       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-11-11 20:38                   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-11-08 14:17           ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-10-11 20:02   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-10-11 21:23     ` Eric Wong
2019-10-11 21:35       ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-10-12  7:19         ` Greg KH
2019-10-14 11:31           ` Mark Brown
2019-10-15 16:11           ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-10-13 23:39         ` Eric Wong
2019-10-14  7:30           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-10-14 22:18             ` Eric Wong
2019-10-15 15:34           ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-10-14 15:33         ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-10-15 15:40           ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-10-15 16:32             ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-10-15 16:34               ` Drew DeVault
2019-10-15 16:44                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-10-15 17:07                   ` Drew DeVault
2019-10-15 17:24               ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-10-11 22:57     ` Dave Airlie
2019-10-12  7:31     ` Greg KH
2019-10-12 13:16 ` Stephen Finucane
2019-10-12 16:13   ` Stephen Finucane

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