From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=3.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_HIGH,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, USER_AGENT_SANE_2 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B54C47404 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2019 18:59:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81BE22089F for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2019 18:59:58 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=default; t=1570820398; bh=3jXlt41X2G7uTGZZzPUU//dmtk7Phlhf51M7zrQdjk4=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:List-ID:From; b=GekM1Y/sysaMzSBDSqlhvCXvC0AyY5xRwVNGuq6ZW/+7ZUxPbRxqpSls9lp4uavQ/ HkraySHUQD8gTuyQO0OzFVKeHO6rf5gaWfMVLUjP6wD7NQ3Izd8eZeAv5X9Jh/HheM pKUZsVykbbEpeIBHSC9HzgnEdnywMsI8CeMk5v6o= Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728853AbfJKS76 (ORCPT ); Fri, 11 Oct 2019 14:59:58 -0400 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org ([198.137.202.133]:57224 "EHLO bombadil.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1728603AbfJKS76 (ORCPT ); Fri, 11 Oct 2019 14:59:58 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=bombadil.20170209; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To: From:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=cwfBiQ5ctI3mkVjjtCxRFp3Nln/rZMSEm2zX78VVX0Q=; b=VLuHeuXbfvGdGVmLfLg3ODxTp 0NIWeuZCuK29JfiRMjAB3sZFCQqOL3EeOVqtOB1c7lTndyphzM+3MxG/XksFscw1y/ehxiBlnNsva ah4JEUox884fTXyByJehoBtWDeLaS2obOeWBSyN4lrU98eY3rocYGjo4Me+wiVGHeWTIFOM223Ch0 O6yqlk+PTB1yjyWIOIYto08BcbKvbulT0phxc7oL3TfZE5cTg0N/uQeTaDI1MuFoByPiT/SIkuY7+ 3NEKJBJEq89hncAMv+9pOxk/tNpUY2ZJ2UlusnK8wNxNMozoF609JTLIn3olEVIjSqwLVTOhYfzOo yqNuJ8a4g==; Received: from 177.17.141.107.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br ([177.17.141.107] helo=coco.lan) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtpsa (Exim 4.92.3 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1iJ08n-000627-5w; Fri, 11 Oct 2019 18:59:53 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 15:59:49 -0300 From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab To: David Miller Cc: rostedt@goodmis.org, skhan@linuxfoundation.org, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, patchwork@lists.ozlabs.org, workflows@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: RFE: use patchwork to submit a patch Message-ID: <20191011155949.145f0f7d@coco.lan> In-Reply-To: <20191011.113254.1964556815296845399.davem@davemloft.net> References: <20191011143744.4291b42d@coco.lan> <20191011140108.589bbb52@gandalf.local.home> <20191011.113254.1964556815296845399.davem@davemloft.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.4 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: workflows-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: workflows@vger.kernel.org Em Fri, 11 Oct 2019 11:32:54 -0700 (PDT) David Miller escreveu: > From: Steven Rostedt > Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 14:01:08 -0400 > > > Thus, if we want people to send us their fixes, we better keep just > > an email with a patch the lowest bar for entry. > > I argue that for people coming into the software engineering world > today, a PR is the lowest bar for entry. And email is the exact > opposite, _especially_ our way of doing email. > > Because it IS NOT just an email with a patch. > > It is an email with a specific Subject line format, with various > fields. Some field are optional and some are mandatory, and it also > depends upon which tree you are targetting. > > Then there is the commit message which has content and formatting > requirements. > > And then there are the tags, of various types and flavors, and the > context (which is sometimes subtle) determines which of those tags are > relevant and how they should be filled in. > > The various other standard email fields like TO: and CC: have to > be set a certain way otherwise the patch won't even be looked at. I can't see how just adding a web interface like github/gitlab would solve any of the above. I mean, the submitter will still need to write a proper subject/description before submitting the patch to the web interface, add the tags, etc. The only thing that would be different if we write a a Kernel-specific web GUI would be to automate some sanity checks on it, like starting a CI build for the patch series, run checkpatch and get_maintainers, but that could also happen if we write a script/submit_patches tool, that would internally call checkpatch, get_maintainers and git send e-mail (or use some other interface like patchwork REST to submit patches). Thanks, Mauro