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From:   Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
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On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 17:08:39 -0700
Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org> wrote:

> Yes, my life is too short to fight with corporate stuff.

Heh, me too.

> There is a security first mindset which is good but gets in the way.
> The current generation of Internet standard mail protocols does not have enough security to be allowed.

Wish we could come up with a "secured email" RFC.

> 
> It does bring up that any new workflow has to have security protocol
> and threat model as part of its design.

True.

-- Steve