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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Cc: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	patchwork@lists.ozlabs.org, workflows@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: RFE: use patchwork to submit a patch
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 12:47:49 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191015124749.1a11926f@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191015163704.GJ4875@pendragon.ideasonboard.com>

On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 19:37:04 +0300
Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com> wrote:

> But how far could we push this reasoning ? I've worked for a company
> whose corporate policy was that all source code had to be stored in SVN,
> not exception. I didn't reach the community to move kernel development
> away from git. I've also worked with people whose corporate policy was
> that they had to do Linux kernel development on Windows, without using
> any virtual machine. There are all kind of crazy corporate policies, and
> if we don't push the pain it inflicts on all of us back to the people
> who enact those crazy policies, we'll always lose.

I understand your sentiment. But most of your examples are one-off
"crazy corporate policies". The "sucky email server" and "you must use
this sucky email server" is rather standard. Not saying that we don't
want to pressure them to change, but I'm hearing from people (like Dave
Miller), that new developers are moving away from email for
development.

I thought part of this thread was talking about having other ways
besides email to submit a patch. Something that can help people
correctly send a patch (at least their formatting) by making sure they
fill out the proper fields and have a tool that helps them do so. I
brought up the corporate email servers just as an example of having
this help out there too.

I plan on continuing to develop mostly in email (I still send my patch
series via quilt!). But I'm not going to enforce everyone to continue
to use email if we can come up with a better way. I also want to make
sure that whatever we do come up with will still support email.

-- Steve

  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-15 16:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-10 14:41 RFE: use patchwork to submit a patch Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-10-10 18:07 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-10 19:42   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-10 19:53   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-10-10 20:05     ` Eric Wong
2019-10-10 20:21       ` Jonathan Nieder
2019-10-10 20:36         ` Eric Wong
2019-10-11 18:05     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-10 20:20 ` Jonathan Nieder
2019-10-10 21:38 ` Daniel Axtens
2019-10-10 22:05   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-10-11  8:57 ` Greg KH
2019-10-11 17:20   ` Shuah Khan
2019-10-11 17:37     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-11 18:01       ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-11 18:32         ` David Miller
2019-10-11 18:44           ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-11 18:51             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-11 18:59           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-11 19:02             ` Drew DeVault
2019-10-11 19:11             ` David Miller
2019-10-11 21:19               ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-10-11 21:47                 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-11 22:54                   ` Dave Airlie
2019-10-11 23:00                     ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-12  0:08                       ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-10-12  0:14                         ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-13 23:38                         ` Daniel Axtens
2019-10-14 10:42                           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-14 12:26                             ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-14 13:18                               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-14 13:41                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-14 13:53                                 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-14 14:28                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-14 15:25                                     ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-10-14 12:27                             ` Daniel Axtens
2019-10-14 13:19                           ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-14 14:58     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-14 15:12       ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-10-15  4:49         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-15 16:30           ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-10-14 15:17       ` Greg KH
2019-10-14 15:27         ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-10-15  4:41         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-15 16:07           ` Greg KH
2019-10-14 20:56       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-15  4:39         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-15 12:37         ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-15 13:35           ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-15 14:05             ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-15 15:21             ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-10-15 16:37           ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-10-15 16:47             ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2019-10-21 15:39               ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-10-24 13:15                 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-24 13:33                   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-24 13:58                     ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-24 14:12                       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-15  8:57       ` Eric Wong
2019-10-15  9:11         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-15 16:24           ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-10-15 16:27           ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-10-21 11:16       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-11-08  9:44       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-11-08 14:02         ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-11-08 14:11           ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-11-08 14:12             ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-11-08 14:17               ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-11-08 14:25                 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-11-09  4:31                   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-11-11  9:35                     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-11-11 12:08                       ` Mark Brown
2019-11-11 16:17                       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-11-11 20:38                   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-11-08 14:17           ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-10-11 20:02   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-10-11 21:23     ` Eric Wong
2019-10-11 21:35       ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-10-12  7:19         ` Greg KH
2019-10-14 11:31           ` Mark Brown
2019-10-15 16:11           ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-10-13 23:39         ` Eric Wong
2019-10-14  7:30           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-10-14 22:18             ` Eric Wong
2019-10-15 15:34           ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-10-14 15:33         ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-10-15 15:40           ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-10-15 16:32             ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-10-15 16:34               ` Drew DeVault
2019-10-15 16:44                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-10-15 17:07                   ` Drew DeVault
2019-10-15 17:24               ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-10-11 22:57     ` Dave Airlie
2019-10-12  7:31     ` Greg KH
2019-10-12 13:16 ` Stephen Finucane
2019-10-12 16:13   ` Stephen Finucane

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