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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>
Cc: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	"Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	patchwork@lists.ozlabs.org, workflows@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: RFE: use patchwork to submit a patch
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2019 09:58:39 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191024095839.44429eeb@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACT4Y+am=FxEkMYFz8JZXP8GUOEzOPF=6h_s_04HbozU6BJkVQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 15:33:04 +0200
Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 3:15 PM Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 18:39:18 +0300
> > Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com> wrote:


> 
> Purely theoretically let's consider that the changes do not improve
> _your_ efficiency, but they significantly improve overall project
> efficiency by positively affecting people who did not develop a
> workflow over the past decades (maybe there were not around 2 decades
> ago) and positively affecting various tooling that _you_ may be
> directly interested in, but otherwise they are important for the
> project overall. So for you it's no change in efficiency except that
> you now need to do things differently. What do you think about such
> changes? Are you ready to force yourself? :)
> I think it's quite cornerstone question here. All (?) major figures in
> the kernel (who are ~~98% of decision making, but ~~2% of kernel
> developers overall) have developed workflows over the past decades
> that work reasonably well for them. If they veto all proposed changes
> based on the criteria you described, every new contributor will need
> decades to develop own workflows to become an efficient contributor
> and lots of tooling will be painfully hard to do.
>

The above sound like a one size fits all approach, which I would caste
a veto to. I would like a solution that works for multiple workflows.
One where mine and others still work too.

Please, lets work on a infrastructure that is robust and flexible, that
is split into back and front ends. That way, we have a single "back
end" and multiple front ends that suite everyone's needs.

-- Steve

  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-24 13:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-10 14:41 RFE: use patchwork to submit a patch Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-10-10 18:07 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-10 19:42   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-10 19:53   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-10-10 20:05     ` Eric Wong
2019-10-10 20:21       ` Jonathan Nieder
2019-10-10 20:36         ` Eric Wong
2019-10-11 18:05     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-10 20:20 ` Jonathan Nieder
2019-10-10 21:38 ` Daniel Axtens
2019-10-10 22:05   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-10-11  8:57 ` Greg KH
2019-10-11 17:20   ` Shuah Khan
2019-10-11 17:37     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-11 18:01       ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-11 18:32         ` David Miller
2019-10-11 18:44           ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-11 18:51             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-11 18:59           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-11 19:02             ` Drew DeVault
2019-10-11 19:11             ` David Miller
2019-10-11 21:19               ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-10-11 21:47                 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-11 22:54                   ` Dave Airlie
2019-10-11 23:00                     ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-12  0:08                       ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-10-12  0:14                         ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-13 23:38                         ` Daniel Axtens
2019-10-14 10:42                           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-14 12:26                             ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-14 13:18                               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-14 13:41                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-14 13:53                                 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-14 14:28                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-14 15:25                                     ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-10-14 12:27                             ` Daniel Axtens
2019-10-14 13:19                           ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-14 14:58     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-14 15:12       ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-10-15  4:49         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-15 16:30           ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-10-14 15:17       ` Greg KH
2019-10-14 15:27         ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-10-15  4:41         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-15 16:07           ` Greg KH
2019-10-14 20:56       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-15  4:39         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-15 12:37         ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-15 13:35           ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-15 14:05             ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-15 15:21             ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-10-15 16:37           ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-10-15 16:47             ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-21 15:39               ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-10-24 13:15                 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-24 13:33                   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-24 13:58                     ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2019-10-24 14:12                       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-15  8:57       ` Eric Wong
2019-10-15  9:11         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-15 16:24           ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-10-15 16:27           ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-10-21 11:16       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-11-08  9:44       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-11-08 14:02         ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-11-08 14:11           ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-11-08 14:12             ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-11-08 14:17               ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-11-08 14:25                 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-11-09  4:31                   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-11-11  9:35                     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-11-11 12:08                       ` Mark Brown
2019-11-11 16:17                       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-11-11 20:38                   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-11-08 14:17           ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-10-11 20:02   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-10-11 21:23     ` Eric Wong
2019-10-11 21:35       ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-10-12  7:19         ` Greg KH
2019-10-14 11:31           ` Mark Brown
2019-10-15 16:11           ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-10-13 23:39         ` Eric Wong
2019-10-14  7:30           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-10-14 22:18             ` Eric Wong
2019-10-15 15:34           ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-10-14 15:33         ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-10-15 15:40           ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-10-15 16:32             ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-10-15 16:34               ` Drew DeVault
2019-10-15 16:44                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-10-15 17:07                   ` Drew DeVault
2019-10-15 17:24               ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-10-11 22:57     ` Dave Airlie
2019-10-12  7:31     ` Greg KH
2019-10-12 13:16 ` Stephen Finucane
2019-10-12 16:13   ` Stephen Finucane

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