From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18FF0C33C9E for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2020 00:22:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C0424658 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2020 00:22:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728795AbgAOAWt (ORCPT ); Tue, 14 Jan 2020 19:22:49 -0500 Received: from dcvr.yhbt.net ([64.71.152.64]:58066 "EHLO dcvr.yhbt.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1728774AbgAOAWt (ORCPT ); Tue, 14 Jan 2020 19:22:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (dcvr.yhbt.net [127.0.0.1]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9AB91F466; Wed, 15 Jan 2020 00:22:48 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 00:22:48 +0000 From: Eric Wong To: "Aneesh Kumar K.V" Cc: workflows@vger.kernel.org Subject: TAN: SSIA emails [was: matrix.org as a replacement for IRC?] Message-ID: <20200115002248.GA27608@dcvr> References: <87d0bmkx1w.fsf@linux.ibm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87d0bmkx1w.fsf@linux.ibm.com> Sender: workflows-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: workflows@vger.kernel.org "Aneesh Kumar K.V" wrote: > Was there any discussion around using matrix.org or any other > alternative as a replacement for IRC? This should help to avoid setting > up irc proxy to keep track of discussion when the users are not online. Going off on a tangent here, I've been thinking about detecting and displaying Subject-Says-It-All (SSIA) emails in a more concise way for public-inbox. That would give some benefits of chat and save readers' time in having less text to wade through; while still retaining threading and offline capability of email. I'm not aware of any existing MUAs which support, it, though; so I'm hesitant to have public-inbox be the first... > IIUC both KDE and mozilla switched to matrix as their IRC replacement. Not sure how those orgs operate, but I find synchronous communication tiring and difficult when people are operating between several different timezones. It's especially difficult when several topics are being discussed in parallel. I still use IRC privately, but only with small groups and mostly for non-technical topics ("watercooler talk"); but some of my fellow chatters have been wanting to move over to proprietary replacements :<