From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2B24C33C9E for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2020 19:14:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A3B222C4 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2020 19:14:02 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="ZNorhSzE" Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728741AbgANTOC (ORCPT ); Tue, 14 Jan 2020 14:14:02 -0500 Received: from mail-il1-f177.google.com ([209.85.166.177]:33000 "EHLO mail-il1-f177.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726523AbgANTOA (ORCPT ); Tue, 14 Jan 2020 14:14:00 -0500 Received: by mail-il1-f177.google.com with SMTP id v15so12550322iln.0 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2020 11:14:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:reply-to:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=hFa7vJOqH5ZYtAl3JMqWe+nNk7svu2GwB8iF38MwDP8=; b=ZNorhSzEkm9297roDcAwDSNZUcDStKvZLAsW2KBgzQL8ZLefPetICHVl89MjqrMMsH qXe99h0Q2gkXVUx8Q5eC0ETXq3MRVO4WeAYcajKCtO4CtLIBzcry1Sa35G6HTyiv9lns JiZ1tEXRRLtqC+cJdoBHcE4SxzLIQm9Toa7i64BcngHIeqhHdM4xHGXSYcVa58JQ5CBZ s5VeadTaagM22mSMkdtp+XVBRosVC3poiyvNWgWGWYyxnkaqXRrNh7sNgG+RmIJeUJVP UPkD7/k/iIjGLZOwT+HZ5pJqVU/psuqx3hBDIRvPVY7mz4CJckh2uQ1Pb967iDP9mntf 86Yw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:reply-to :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=hFa7vJOqH5ZYtAl3JMqWe+nNk7svu2GwB8iF38MwDP8=; b=MobyzYp9SDuoKnTJ0dH15YNFcNDfLxMJCSz3KNeWja8qW5HhWV4QgolVM2/kVcLFxp WIfLvAYKcbUZpPCP6EyqTQBX2Cx6oyUTxQoMTDgxDdVvwYP07liYgzVPzCmrAuETvZdy H/IejFBcG9SNbHEZZPIl2e9OAIUAlA0TrG/IRqRbVTC3OxUSx29j7CaG9CC9Z5PNgK9n 16nf4fD+EkC3aeGWyHAIQlhUyyEhemU/WjSgrznbG16m/Z0HesZK/nGJUIzN5SThb4pg BouP7o5LlHB50aRivUrqQGL/eL0aO/7hi8KcjuYN2EAwK2Ls0XV+juZjfMKcpOiX65R3 kE/Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVVFFUPJOabHpq/U9LSUuljhzhdDlMyr7c8FGdv5V0UUNqGwfw5 DTXQSy9uVtlIfvw3ZjRYdCg6/zN/nwkPAXm7/mOeSky+ X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyTaPfyEfoOtrVahul0QyghYjELLlRmRgZ0hv+/6iFCKMKT0WkW1bwN/6UOYmUNNeZCBeFHCxIccQHSLhhyvRs= X-Received: by 2002:a92:d7c6:: with SMTP id g6mr4251182ilq.37.1579029239754; Tue, 14 Jan 2020 11:13:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87d0bmkx1w.fsf@linux.ibm.com> In-Reply-To: Reply-To: bjorn@helgaas.com From: Bjorn Helgaas Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 13:13:48 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: matrix.org as a replacement for IRC? To: Drew DeVault Cc: "Aneesh Kumar K.V" , workflows@vger.kernel.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sender: workflows-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: workflows@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 7:44 AM Drew DeVault wrote: > > Hard NACK from me. I'd never heard of matrix.org and don't have an opinion either way. I do find IRC useful. Proxies make it much more useful, and if I have a choice, I'd rather not pay $50/year to irccloud just for a permanent presence. I'd be interested to hear the details of your NACK, because they'd likely be informative and useful to me. Bjorn