From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37E6AC433EF for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2021 13:52:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F28361B4D for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2021 13:52:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S233010AbhKPNzE (ORCPT ); Tue, 16 Nov 2021 08:55:04 -0500 Received: from out0.migadu.com ([94.23.1.103]:36538 "EHLO out0.migadu.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S231753AbhKPNzB (ORCPT ); Tue, 16 Nov 2021 08:55:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cmpwn.com; s=key1; t=1637070722; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=Q4RmHw7GP/4spYdJgPJBzZyvmCRjNlAt5p44H3RiVdM=; b=XHprUG0Ltmy7fah2ZDr2rVcMPeVJduq/zizKkkHdlgPVv41GuSajFnOHE9xlgTYm+jjkHi I+EbjCbarYX/saevsZyslf1JDjpR/ub7HnDzZklk4rqgrJp/79YychjhOYMQRCB9v4YlZE JZUfaGKkEldg+W5UBu3UeLoYYDorWIXja3RrgE96f29g58lizn1JiL3kR5kPw9MS9PsMMr OWTO6+DX+YDcjfr5Rjsfy0TqmrYDLwlxcS5bC/59mdAez8bY+MGQY/bgn3XzlTePT/xHOc f1KGT9mCvMde1Oaz7xvnVdtjmhU+lEqRhOga0zrtFBZnzKexaK2RDBsQ9GzzpQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2021 14:51:59 +0100 Message-Id: Cc: "Geert Uytterhoeven" , Subject: Re: Gmail (was: Re: lore+lei: part 2, now with IMAP) X-Report-Abuse: Please report any abuse attempt to abuse@migadu.com and include these headers. From: "Drew DeVault" To: "Konstantin Ryabitsev" References: <20211115214641.lxo5zhttrqq6mx2z@nitro.local> <20211116134917.cqpca6auuzt7f5sw@meerkat.local> In-Reply-To: <20211116134917.cqpca6auuzt7f5sw@meerkat.local> Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: workflows@vger.kernel.org On Tue Nov 16, 2021 at 2:49 PM CET, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > We do have the maxi plan for linux.dev, and we *have* hit limits. The > Migadu folks have been extremely accommodating for us, so it's not > been a huge deal thus far, but I'm not sure if the relaxed > restrictions they've put in place are just for the linux.dev domain or > now apply globally. For example, sending large patch series (20+) used > to trip up Migadu's outgoing rate limit for too much mail sent at > once. We've not hit that error for a while, so I assume they've > relaxed that restriction either just for linux.dev, or perhaps > globally. > > It's important to keep in mind that the overall outgoing/incoming > limits are per account, not per mailbox. Not a huge deal for personal > use, but quickly adds up for setups like we have, which is why we ask > folks not to subscribe to busy lists (see #4 in the list of our > requirements here: > https://www.kernel.org/doc/projects/korg/linuxdev.html#rules-and-restrict= ions) > > Overall, Migadu is a good recommendation for individual developer > accounts, but may be too restricting for maintainers that do end up > sending huge amounts of mail. Gmail or Fastmail could be better > options for those folks. I'm surprised to learn that linux.dev is using Migadu rather than its own infrastructure. I would only recommend it for personal use. I will say that I have also occasionally hit Migadu's limits, but they have been accomodating in loosening them for legitimate use when asked.