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From: Roger Pau Monne <roger.pau@citrix.com>
To: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
Cc: "Lan, Tianyu" <tianyu.lan@intel.com>,
	yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com, kevin.tian@intel.com,
	sstabellini@kernel.org, "Nakajima, Jun" <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
	"Dong, Eddie" <eddie.dong@intel.com>,
	ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com, xen-devel@lists.xensource.com,
	jbeulich@suse.com, anthony.perard@citrix.com,
	boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com
Subject: Current PVH/HVMlite work and planning (was :Re: Discussion about virtual iommu support for Xen guest)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 13:01:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160603110130.gmkpqq5n4tmdin6r@mac> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <575081E8.6070609@citrix.com>

On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 07:58:48PM +0100, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> On 02/06/16 16:03, Lan, Tianyu wrote:
> > On 5/27/2016 4:19 PM, Lan Tianyu wrote:
> >> On 2016年05月26日 19:35, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> >>> On 26/05/16 09:29, Lan Tianyu wrote:
> >>>
> >>> To be viable going forwards, any solution must work with PVH/HVMLite as
> >>> much as HVM.  This alone negates qemu as a viable option.
> >>>
> >>> From a design point of view, having Xen needing to delegate to qemu to
> >>> inject an interrupt into a guest seems backwards.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Sorry, I am not familiar with HVMlite. HVMlite doesn't use Qemu and
> >> the qemu virtual iommu can't work for it. We have to rewrite virtual
> >> iommu in the Xen, right?
> >>
> >>>
> >>> A whole lot of this would be easier to reason about if/when we get a
> >>> basic root port implementation in Xen, which is necessary for HVMLite,
> >>> and which will make the interaction with qemu rather more clean.  It is
> >>> probably worth coordinating work in this area.
> >>
> >> The virtual iommu also should be under basic root port in Xen, right?
> >>
[...]
> > What's progress of PCI host bridge in Xen? From your opinion, we should
> > do that first, right? Thanks.
> 
> Very sorry for the delay.
> 
> There are multiple interacting issues here.  On the one side, it would
> be useful if we could have a central point of coordination on
> PVH/HVMLite work.  Roger - as the person who last did HVMLite work,
> would you mind organising that?

Sure. Adding Boris and Konrad.

AFAIK, the current status is that Boris posted a RFC to provide some basic 
ACPI tables to PVH/HVMlite guests, and I'm currently working on rebasing my 
half-backed HVMlite Dom0 series on top of that. None of those two projects 
require the presence of an emulated PCI root complex inside of Xen, so 
there's nobody working on it ATM that I'm aware of.

Speaking about the PVH/HVMlite roadmap, after those two items are done we 
had plans to work on having full PCI root complex emulation inside of Xen, 
so that we could do passthrough of PCI devices to PVH/HVMlite guests without 
QEMU (and of course without pcifront inside of the guest). I don't foresee 
any of us working on it for at least the next 6 months, so I think there's a 
good chance that this can be done in parallel to the work that Boris and I 
are doing, without any clashes. Is anyone at Intel interested in picking 
this up?

Roger.

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-03 11:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-26  8:29 Discussion about virtual iommu support for Xen guest Lan Tianyu
2016-05-26  8:42 ` Dong, Eddie
2016-05-27  2:26   ` Lan Tianyu
2016-05-27  8:11     ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-26 11:35 ` Andrew Cooper
2016-05-27  8:19   ` Lan Tianyu
2016-06-02 15:03     ` Lan, Tianyu
2016-06-02 18:58       ` Andrew Cooper
2016-06-03 11:01         ` Roger Pau Monne [this message]
2016-06-03 11:21           ` Current PVH/HVMlite work and planning (was :Re: Discussion about virtual iommu support for Xen guest) Tian, Kevin
2016-06-03 11:52             ` Roger Pau Monne
2016-06-03 12:11               ` Tian, Kevin
2016-06-03 16:56                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-06-07  5:48                   ` Tian, Kevin
2016-06-03 11:17         ` Discussion about virtual iommu support for Xen guest Tian, Kevin
2016-06-03 13:09           ` Lan, Tianyu
2016-06-03 14:00             ` Andrew Cooper
2016-06-03 13:51           ` Andrew Cooper
2016-06-03 14:31             ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-03 17:14             ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-06-07  5:14               ` Tian, Kevin
2016-06-07  7:26                 ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-07 10:07                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-06-08  8:11                   ` Tian, Kevin
2016-06-26 13:42                     ` Lan, Tianyu
2016-06-29  3:04                       ` Tian, Kevin
2016-07-05 13:37                         ` Lan, Tianyu
2016-07-05 13:57                           ` Jan Beulich
2016-07-05 14:19                             ` Lan, Tianyu
2016-08-17 12:05                             ` Xen virtual IOMMU high level design doc Lan, Tianyu
2016-08-17 12:42                               ` Paul Durrant
2016-08-18  2:57                                 ` Lan, Tianyu
2016-08-25 11:11                               ` Jan Beulich
2016-08-31  8:39                                 ` Lan Tianyu
2016-08-31 12:02                                   ` Jan Beulich
2016-09-01  1:26                                     ` Tian, Kevin
2016-09-01  2:35                                     ` Lan Tianyu
2016-09-15 14:22                               ` Lan, Tianyu
2016-10-05 18:36                                 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-10-11  1:52                                   ` Lan Tianyu
2016-11-23 18:19                               ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2016-11-23 19:09                                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-11-24  2:00                                   ` Tian, Kevin
2016-11-24  4:09                                     ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2016-11-24  6:49                                       ` Lan Tianyu
2016-11-24 13:37                                         ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2016-11-25  2:01                                           ` Xuquan (Quan Xu)
2016-11-25  5:53                                           ` Lan, Tianyu
2016-10-18 14:14                             ` Xen virtual IOMMU high level design doc V2 Lan Tianyu
2016-10-18 19:17                               ` Andrew Cooper
2016-10-20  9:53                                 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-10-20 18:10                                   ` Andrew Cooper
2016-10-20 14:17                                 ` Lan Tianyu
2016-10-20 20:36                                   ` Andrew Cooper
2016-10-22  7:32                                     ` Lan, Tianyu
2016-10-26  9:39                                       ` Jan Beulich
2016-10-26 15:03                                         ` Lan, Tianyu
2016-11-03 15:41                                         ` Lan, Tianyu
2016-10-28 15:36                                     ` Lan Tianyu
2016-10-18 20:26                               ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-10-20 10:11                                 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-10-20 14:56                                 ` Lan, Tianyu
2016-10-26  9:36                               ` Jan Beulich
2016-10-26 14:53                                 ` Lan, Tianyu
2016-11-17 15:36                             ` Xen virtual IOMMU high level design doc V3 Lan Tianyu
2016-11-18 19:43                               ` Julien Grall
2016-11-21  2:21                                 ` Lan, Tianyu
2016-11-21 13:17                                   ` Julien Grall
2016-11-21 18:24                                     ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-11-21  7:05                               ` Tian, Kevin
2016-11-23  1:36                                 ` Lan Tianyu
2016-11-21 13:41                               ` Andrew Cooper
2016-11-22  6:02                                 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-11-22  8:32                                 ` Lan Tianyu
2016-11-22 10:24                               ` Jan Beulich
2016-11-24  2:34                                 ` Lan Tianyu
2016-06-03 19:51             ` Is: 'basic pci bridge and root device support. 'Was:Re: Discussion about virtual iommu support for Xen guest Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-06-06  9:55               ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-06 17:25                 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-08-02 15:15     ` Lan, Tianyu
2016-05-27  8:35   ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-27  8:46     ` Paul Durrant
2016-05-27  9:39       ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-31  9:43   ` George Dunlap
2016-05-27  2:26 ` Yang Zhang
2016-05-27  8:13   ` Tian, Kevin

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