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From: Wei Liu <wl@xen.org>
To: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
Cc: "Wei Liu" <liuwe@microsoft.com>, "Wei Liu" <wl@xen.org>,
	"Paul Durrant" <paul@xen.org>,
	"Andrew Cooper" <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	"Michael Kelley" <mikelley@microsoft.com>,
	"Xen Development List" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	"Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH v3 3/5] x86/hyperv: provide percpu hypercall input page
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 15:54:36 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200108155436.unke6wgu4nyo3laf@debian> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8d19ba65-95f6-1e5e-1ff7-e6d488fedb90@suse.com>

On Wed, Jan 08, 2020 at 11:55:03AM +0100, Jan Beulich wrote:
> On 07.01.2020 18:27, Wei Liu wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 07, 2020 at 06:08:19PM +0100, Jan Beulich wrote:
> >> On 07.01.2020 17:33, Wei Liu wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 11:27:18AM +0100, Jan Beulich wrote:
> >>>> On 05.01.2020 17:47, Wei Liu wrote:
> >>>>> Hyper-V's input / output argument must be 8 bytes aligned an not cross
> >>>>> page boundary. The easiest way to satisfy those requirements is to use
> >>>>> percpu page.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm not sure "easiest" is really true here. Others could consider adding
> >>>> __aligned() attributes as easy or even easier (by being even more
> >>>> transparent to use sites). Could we settle on "One way ..."?
> >>>
> >>> Do you mean something like
> >>>
> >>>    struct foo __aligned(8);
> >>
> >> If this is in a header and ...
> >>
> >>>    hv_do_hypercall(OP, virt_to_maddr(&foo), ...);
> >>
> >> ... this in actual code, then yes.
> >>
> >>> ?
> >>>
> >>> I don't think this is transparent to user sites. Plus, foo is on stack
> >>> which is 1) difficult to get its maddr,
> >>
> >> It being on the stack may indeed complicate getting its machine address
> >> (if not now, then down the road) - valid point.
> >>
> >>> 2) may cross page boundary.
> >>
> >> The __aligned() of course needs to be large enough to avoid this
> >> happening.
> > 
> > For this alignment to be large enough, it will need to be of PAGE_SIZE,
> > right? Wouldn't that blow up Xen's stack easily?  Given we only have two
> > pages for that.
> 
> Why PAGE_SIZE? For example, a 24-byte structure won't cross a page
> boundary if aligned to 32 bytes.
> 

You're right.

I said PAGE_SIZE because I was too lazy to calculate the size of every
structures. That's tedious and error prone.

> > In light of these restrictions, the approach I take in the original
> > patch should be okay.
> > 
> > I'm fine with changing the wording to "One way ..." -- if that's the
> > only objection you have after this mail.
> 
> Well, the goal was to (a) check whether alternatives have been considered
> (and if not, to consider them) and then (b) if we stick to your approach,
> slightly change the wording as suggested.

I think the determining factor here is to the difficulty of getting
maddr of a stack variable. I will stick with this approach and change
the wording.

Wei.

> 
> Jan

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-08 15:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-05 16:47 [Xen-devel] [PATCH v3 0/5] More Hyper-V infrastructure Wei Liu
2020-01-05 16:47 ` [Xen-devel] [PATCH v3 1/5] x86/hyperv: setup hypercall page Wei Liu
2020-01-05 17:37   ` Andrew Cooper
2020-01-05 21:45     ` Wei Liu
2020-01-05 21:57       ` Andrew Cooper
2020-01-07 15:42         ` Wei Liu
2020-01-08 17:43           ` Wei Liu
2020-01-08 17:53             ` Andrew Cooper
2020-01-09 13:48               ` Wei Liu
2020-01-05 16:47 ` [Xen-devel] [PATCH v3 2/5] x86/hyperv: provide Hyper-V hypercall functions Wei Liu
2020-01-05 19:08   ` Andrew Cooper
2020-01-05 21:22     ` Wei Liu
2020-01-05 22:06       ` Andrew Cooper
2020-01-07 16:17         ` Wei Liu
2020-01-16 19:14           ` Andrew Cooper
2020-01-16 14:54     ` Wei Liu
2020-01-06  9:38   ` Jan Beulich
2020-01-07 16:21     ` Wei Liu
2020-01-05 16:47 ` [Xen-devel] [PATCH v3 3/5] x86/hyperv: provide percpu hypercall input page Wei Liu
2020-01-06 10:27   ` Jan Beulich
2020-01-07 16:33     ` Wei Liu
2020-01-07 16:45       ` Michael Kelley
2020-01-08 10:57         ` Jan Beulich
2020-01-07 17:08       ` Jan Beulich
2020-01-07 17:27         ` Wei Liu
2020-01-08 10:55           ` Jan Beulich
2020-01-08 15:54             ` Wei Liu [this message]
2020-01-05 16:48 ` [Xen-devel] [PATCH v3 4/5] x86/hyperv: retrieve vp_index from Hyper-V Wei Liu
2020-01-06  9:59   ` Paul Durrant
2020-01-06 10:31   ` Jan Beulich
2020-01-07 16:34     ` Wei Liu
2020-01-05 16:48 ` [Xen-devel] [PATCH v3 5/5] x86/hyperv: setup VP assist page Wei Liu

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