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From: Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>
To: Changlong Xie <xiecl.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@citrix.com>, Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>,
	Wen Congyang <wency@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Jiang Yunhong <yunhong.jiang@intel.com>,
	Dong Eddie <eddie.dong@intel.com>,
	xen devel <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	Anthony Perard <anthony.perard@citrix.com>,
	Gui Jianfeng <guijianfeng@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Shriram Rajagopalan <rshriram@cs.ubc.ca>,
	Yang Hongyang <hongyang.yang@easystack.cn>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 00/27] COarse-grain LOck-stepping Virtual Machines for Non-stop Service
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2016 18:17:13 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <22233.53545.554848.713988@mariner.uk.xensource.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1457080891-26054-1-git-send-email-xiecl.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com>

Changlong Xie writes ("[PATCH v11 00/27] COarse-grain LOck-stepping Virtual Machines for Non-stop Service"):
> This patchset implemented the COLO feature for Xen.
> For detail/install/use of COLO feature, refer to:
>   http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/COLO_-_Coarse_Grain_Lock_Stepping

Thanks for this series.  I've now gone and at least looked at each of
these patches.  I think this is an important feature which I want to
see in Xen 4.7.

Most of the patches seem to do roughly sensible things in roughly
sensible ways.  I have reviewed some of the areas where they touch
common code, and some of the API and protocol design.  (I don't think
it very valuable to review the implementation in detail.)

Overall I think most of this is in good shape and on track.

But as you see from my mails I have some serious questions about the
disk checkpointing/plumbing architecture.  I have reservations about
the use of qemu for this.  I think this would perhaps be better done
as a devmapper module.

But I don't feel I understand it well enough yet.  I have read the
docs which have been provided.  The QEMU implementation doc was
helpful but I still feel confused.  I think I should go away and read
it again more closely.  In the meantime, answers to my questions would
be helpful.

If after discussion and further thought I do still think that doing
this in qemu is the wrong place, that doesn't mean that we need to
block this series in the hope of it being rearchitected.  It just
means that I want to make sure that the _interface_ to libxl, as seen
from the outside and especially as seen from the user's point of view,
does not preclude future design changes.

In particular, what I care about in this context is that the libxl API
(and the xl config syntax) 1. doesn't preclude an implementation of
the same functionality elsewhere, and 2. doesn't preclude COLO for PV
guests (or hvm-lite-ng guests).

Thanks for your attention.  I'm afraid I'm going to be away out of the
office for all of next week.  So I will pick this up again when I get
back.

Regards,
Ian.

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Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-04  8:41 [PATCH v11 00/27] COarse-grain LOck-stepping Virtual Machines for Non-stop Service Changlong Xie
2016-03-04  8:41 ` [PATCH v11 01/27] tools/libxl: introduction of libxl__qmp_restore to load qemu state Changlong Xie
2016-03-04 16:30   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-14  9:03     ` Changlong Xie
2016-03-04  8:41 ` [PATCH v11 02/27] tools/libxl: introduce libxl__domain_common_switch_qemu_logdirty() Changlong Xie
2016-03-04  8:41 ` [PATCH v11 03/27] tools/libxl: Add back channel to allow migration target send data back Changlong Xie
2016-03-04 16:38   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-08 16:38     ` Wei Liu
2016-03-17  8:07     ` Changlong Xie
2016-03-04  8:41 ` [PATCH v11 04/27] tools/libxl: Introduce new helper function dup_fd_helper() Changlong Xie
2016-03-04 16:42   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-17  8:08     ` Changlong Xie
2016-03-04  8:41 ` [PATCH v11 05/27] tools/libx{l, c}: add back channel to libxc Changlong Xie
2016-03-04 16:45   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-04  8:41 ` [PATCH v11 06/27] docs: add colo readme Changlong Xie
2016-03-04  8:41 ` [PATCH v11 07/27] docs/libxl: Introduce CHECKPOINT_CONTEXT to support migration v2 colo streams Changlong Xie
2016-03-04 16:51   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-08 16:38     ` Wei Liu
2016-03-11  7:13     ` Wen Congyang
2016-03-04  8:41 ` [PATCH v11 08/27] libxc/migration: Specification update for DIRTY_PFN_LIST records Changlong Xie
2016-03-04 16:53   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-17  8:10     ` Changlong Xie
2016-03-04  8:41 ` [PATCH v11 09/27] libxc/migration: export read_record for common use Changlong Xie
2016-03-04 16:55   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-04  8:41 ` [PATCH v11 10/27] tools/libxl: add back channel support to write stream Changlong Xie
2016-03-04 17:00   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-07  2:13     ` Wen Congyang
2016-03-11  9:05     ` Wen Congyang
2016-03-17  8:11     ` Changlong Xie
2016-03-04  8:41 ` [PATCH v11 11/27] tools/libxl: add back channel support to read stream Changlong Xie
2016-03-04 17:01   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-04  8:41 ` [PATCH v11 12/27] tools/libx{l, c}: introduce wait_checkpoint callback Changlong Xie
2016-03-04 17:03   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-04 20:23     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-07  2:16       ` Wen Congyang
2016-03-17  8:16     ` Changlong Xie
2016-03-04  8:41 ` [PATCH v11 13/27] tools/libx{l, c}: add postcopy/suspend callback to restore side Changlong Xie
2016-03-04 17:05   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-17  8:17     ` Changlong Xie
2016-03-04  8:41 ` [PATCH v11 14/27] secondary vm suspend/resume/checkpoint code Changlong Xie
2016-03-04 17:11   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-07  2:57     ` Wen Congyang
2016-03-17  9:03     ` Changlong Xie
2016-03-17 12:19       ` Wei Liu
2016-03-04  8:41 ` [PATCH v11 15/27] primary " Changlong Xie
2016-03-04 17:14   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-07  2:59     ` Wen Congyang
2016-03-04  8:41 ` [PATCH v11 16/27] libxc/restore: support COLO restore Changlong Xie
2016-03-04 17:16   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-04  8:41 ` [PATCH v11 17/27] libxc/save: support COLO save Changlong Xie
2016-03-04 17:18   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-07  3:00     ` Wen Congyang
2016-03-04  8:41 ` [PATCH v11 18/27] implement the cmdline for COLO Changlong Xie
2016-03-04 17:22   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-07  3:04     ` Wen Congyang
2016-03-04  8:41 ` [PATCH v11 19/27] COLO: introduce new API to prepare/start/do/get_error/stop replication Changlong Xie
2016-03-04 17:26   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-08 16:46     ` Wei Liu
2016-03-18  3:44     ` Changlong Xie
2016-03-18 11:35       ` Wei Liu
2016-03-18  3:45     ` Changlong Xie
2016-03-04 17:29   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-18  3:49     ` Changlong Xie
2016-03-04  8:41 ` [PATCH v11 20/27] Support colo mode for qemu disk Changlong Xie
2016-03-04 17:44   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-07  2:06     ` Wen Congyang
2016-03-17 17:18       ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-18  5:42         ` Wen Congyang
2016-03-04 17:52   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-04 20:30     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-07  2:10       ` Wen Congyang
2016-03-08 17:22         ` Wei Liu
2016-03-09  2:09           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-09 16:55             ` Wei Liu
2016-03-17 17:09           ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-17 17:10       ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-04  8:41 ` [PATCH v11 21/27] COLO: use qemu block replication Changlong Xie
2016-03-04  8:41 ` [PATCH v11 22/27] COLO proxy: implement setup/teardown of COLO proxy module Changlong Xie
2016-03-04 17:59   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-18  8:22     ` Changlong Xie
2016-03-22  5:44     ` Changlong Xie
2016-03-22  5:55       ` Changlong Xie
2016-03-04  8:41 ` [PATCH v11 23/27] COLO proxy: preresume, postresume and checkpoint Changlong Xie
2016-03-04 18:01   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-18  8:20     ` Changlong Xie
2016-03-04  8:41 ` [PATCH v11 24/27] COLO nic: implement COLO nic subkind Changlong Xie
2016-03-04 18:02   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-18  8:20     ` Changlong Xie
2016-03-04  8:41 ` [PATCH v11 25/27] setup and control colo proxy on primary side Changlong Xie
2016-03-04 18:05   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-22  6:01     ` Changlong Xie
2016-03-04  8:41 ` [PATCH v11 26/27] setup and control colo proxy on secondary side Changlong Xie
2016-03-04 18:05   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-04  8:41 ` [PATCH v11 27/27] cmdline switches and config vars to control colo-proxy Changlong Xie
2016-03-04 18:09   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-22  4:13     ` Changlong Xie
2016-03-04 18:17 ` Ian Jackson [this message]
2016-03-04 20:35   ` [PATCH v11 00/27] COarse-grain LOck-stepping Virtual Machines for Non-stop Service Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-17 17:19     ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-17 17:41   ` Ian Jackson

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