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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-hyperv@vger.kernel.org, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@linux.intel.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Scott Cheloha <cheloha@linux.ibm.com>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 2/4] mm/page_alloc: place pages to tail in __putback_isolated_page()
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 15:30:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2b2998cb-37fc-8a4e-5dd7-5311b35941f5@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200925131948.GB3910@linux>

On 25.09.20 15:19, Oscar Salvador wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 08:34:09PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> __putback_isolated_page() already documents that pages will be placed to
>> the tail of the freelist - this is, however, not the case for
>> "order >= MAX_ORDER - 2" (see buddy_merge_likely()) - which should be
>> the case for all existing users.
>>
>> This change affects two users:
>> - free page reporting
>> - page isolation, when undoing the isolation.
>>
>> This behavior is desireable for pages that haven't really been touched
>> lately, so exactly the two users that don't actually read/write page
>> content, but rather move untouched pages.
>>
>> The new behavior is especially desirable for memory onlining, where we
>> allow allocation of newly onlined pages via undo_isolate_page_range()
>> in online_pages(). Right now, we always place them to the head of the
>> free list, resulting in undesireable behavior: Assume we add
>> individual memory chunks via add_memory() and online them right away to
>> the NORMAL zone. We create a dependency chain of unmovable allocations
>> e.g., via the memmap. The memmap of the next chunk will be placed onto
>> previous chunks - if the last block cannot get offlined+removed, all
>> dependent ones cannot get offlined+removed. While this can already be
>> observed with individual DIMMs, it's more of an issue for virtio-mem
>> (and I suspect also ppc DLPAR).
>>
>> Note: If we observe a degradation due to the changed page isolation
>> behavior (which I doubt), we can always make this configurable by the
>> instance triggering undo of isolation (e.g., alloc_contig_range(),
>> memory onlining, memory offlining).
>>
>> Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
>> Cc: Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@linux.intel.com>
>> Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
>> Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
>> Cc: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
>> Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
>> Cc: Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@linux.alibaba.com>
>> Cc: Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>
>> Cc: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
>> Cc: Scott Cheloha <cheloha@linux.ibm.com>
>> Cc: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>
>> Signed-off-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
> 
> LGTM, the only thing is the shuffe_zone topic that Wei and Vlastimil rose.
> Feels a bit odd that takes precedence over something we explicitily demanded.
>

Thanks, yeah I'll be changing that.

> With the comment Vlastimil suggested:
> 
> Reviewed-by: Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>
> 

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-25 13:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-16 18:34 [PATCH RFC 0/4] mm: place pages to the freelist tail when onling and undoing isolation David Hildenbrand
2020-09-16 18:34 ` [PATCH RFC 1/4] mm/page_alloc: convert "report" flag of __free_one_page() to a proper flag David Hildenbrand
2020-09-16 21:44   ` Alexander Duyck
2020-09-18  1:53   ` Wei Yang
2020-09-18  7:23     ` David Hildenbrand
2020-09-24 10:19   ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-09-25 10:34   ` Oscar Salvador
2020-09-16 18:34 ` [PATCH RFC 2/4] mm/page_alloc: place pages to tail in __putback_isolated_page() David Hildenbrand
2020-09-16 21:50   ` Alexander Duyck
2020-09-18  2:07   ` Wei Yang
2020-09-18  7:27     ` David Hildenbrand
2020-09-21  1:57       ` Wei Yang
2020-09-18  2:16   ` Wei Yang
2020-09-18  7:29     ` David Hildenbrand
2020-09-24 10:37   ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-09-25  8:10     ` David Hildenbrand
2020-09-25 13:19   ` Oscar Salvador
2020-09-25 13:30     ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2020-09-16 18:34 ` [PATCH RFC 3/4] mm/page_alloc: always move pages to the tail of the freelist in unset_migratetype_isolate() David Hildenbrand
2020-09-18  2:29   ` Wei Yang
2020-09-18  7:30     ` David Hildenbrand
2020-09-24 11:13   ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-09-25  2:45     ` Wei Yang
2020-09-25  8:05       ` David Hildenbrand
2020-09-25  8:39         ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-09-25 13:57   ` Oscar Salvador
2020-09-16 18:34 ` [PATCH RFC 4/4] mm/page_alloc: place pages to tail in __free_pages_core() David Hildenbrand
2020-09-24 13:44   ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-09-28  7:58   ` Oscar Salvador
2020-09-28  8:36     ` David Hildenbrand
2020-09-28 12:53       ` Oscar Salvador
2020-09-16 18:50 ` [PATCH RFC 0/4] mm: place pages to the freelist tail when onling and undoing isolation osalvador
2020-09-16 19:31   ` David Hildenbrand
2020-09-18  2:30     ` Wei Yang
2020-09-18  7:32       ` David Hildenbrand
2020-09-23 14:31     ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-09-23 15:26       ` David Hildenbrand
2020-09-24  9:40         ` Mel Gorman
2020-09-24  9:54           ` David Hildenbrand
2020-09-24 13:59         ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-09-24 14:29           ` David Hildenbrand
2020-09-24  1:57       ` Wei Yang

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