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From: Jim Fehlig <jfehlig@suse.com>
To: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>, Julien Grall <julien@xen.org>
Cc: Hongyan Xia <hx242@xen.org>, Charles Arnold <CARNOLD@suse.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>, Wei Liu <wl@xen.org>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	George Dunlap <george.dunlap@citrix.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] Revert "domctl: improve locking during domain destruction"
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2020 10:55:52 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <547e509f-93ba-2bbf-f12d-21b9443e12e4@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <30f1ec6d-b5be-fcb1-c685-ed02961175c1@suse.com>

On 3/25/20 1:11 AM, Jan Beulich wrote:
> On 24.03.2020 19:39, Julien Grall wrote:
>> On 24/03/2020 16:13, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>> On 24.03.2020 16:21, Hongyan Xia wrote:
>>>> From: Hongyan Xia <hongyxia@amazon.com>
>>>> In contrast,
>>>> after dropping that commit, parallel domain destructions will just fail
>>>> to take the domctl lock, creating a hypercall continuation and backing
>>>> off immediately, allowing the thread that holds the lock to destroy a
>>>> domain much more quickly and allowing backed-off threads to process
>>>> events and irqs.
>>>>
>>>> On a 144-core server with 4TiB of memory, destroying 32 guests (each
>>>> with 4 vcpus and 122GiB memory) simultaneously takes:
>>>>
>>>> before the revert: 29 minutes
>>>> after the revert: 6 minutes
>>>
>>> This wants comparing against numbers demonstrating the bad effects of
>>> the global domctl lock. Iirc they were quite a bit higher than 6 min,
>>> perhaps depending on guest properties.
>>
>> Your original commit message doesn't contain any clue in which
>> cases the domctl lock was an issue. So please provide information
>> on the setups you think it will make it worse.
> 
> I did never observe the issue myself - let's see whether one of the SUSE
> people possibly involved in this back then recall (or have further
> pointers; Jim, Charles?), or whether any of the (partly former) Citrix
> folks do. My vague recollection is that the issue was the tool stack as
> a whole stalling for far too long in particular when destroying very
> large guests.

I too only have a vague memory of the issue but do recall shutting down large 
guests (e.g. 500GB) taking a long time and blocking other toolstack operations. 
I haven't checked on the behavior in quite some time though.

> One important aspect not discussed in the commit message
> at all is that holding the domctl lock block basically _all_ tool stack
> operations (including e.g. creation of new guests), whereas the new
> issue attempted to be addressed is limited to just domain cleanup.

I more vaguely recall shutting down the host taking a *long* time when dom0 had 
large amounts of memory, e.g. when it had all host memory (no dom0_mem= setting 
and autoballooning enabled).

Regards,
Jim


  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-03-26 17:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-24 15:21 Hongyan Xia
2020-03-24 16:13 ` Jan Beulich
2020-03-24 18:39   ` Julien Grall
2020-03-25  7:11     ` Jan Beulich
2020-03-26 14:39       ` Hongyan Xia
2020-03-26 16:55       ` Jim Fehlig [this message]
2020-03-31 10:31         ` Julien Grall
2020-03-24 18:40 ` [Xen-devel] " Julien Grall

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