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From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>,
	"Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 07/32] xen/x86: fix arch_set_info_guest for HVM guests
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 18:12:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55B1208C.9090207@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55B11CBE.8050704@citrix.com>

On 23/07/15 17:56, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
> El 23/07/15 a les 18.19, Jan Beulich ha escrit:
>>>>> On 23.07.15 at 18:15, <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com> wrote:
>>> On 23/07/15 17:00, Ian Campbell wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 2015-07-23 at 17:48 +0200, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
>>>>> El 23/07/15 a les 17.32, Jan Beulich ha escrit:
>>>>>>>>> On 23.07.15 at 17:10, <roger.pau@citrix.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> IMHO introducing a new structure that gets rid of all the PV-only 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> fields seems like a good option:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> struct vcpu_hvm_context {
>>>>>>> #define _VGCF_online                   5
>>>>>>> #define VGCF_online                    (1<<_VGCF_online)
>>>>>>>     uint32_t flags;                         /* VGCF_* flags      
>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>> */
>>>>>>>     struct cpu_hvm_user_regs user_regs;     /* User-level CPU 
>>>>>>> registers     
>>>>>>> */
>>>>>>>     /* NB. User pagetable on x86/64 is placed in ctrlreg[1]. */
>>>>>>>     uint32_t ctrlreg[8];                    /* CR0-CR7 (control 
>>>>>>> registers)  
>>>>>>> */
>>>>>>>     uint32_t debugreg[8];                   /* DB0-DB7 (debug 
>>>>>>> registers)    
>>>>>>> */
>>>>>>> };
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm also seriously considering getting rid of ctrlreg and 
>>>>>>> debugreg.
>>>>>>> Since HVM VCPUs will always be started in 32bit flat mode, it 
>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>> make sense IMHO to have both the 32 and the 64 version of the 
>>>>>>> registers, so cpu_hvm_user_regs is always going to be:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> struct cpu_hvm_user_regs {
>>>>>>>     uint32_t ebx;
>>>>>>>     uint32_t ecx;
>>>>>>>     uint32_t edx;
>>>>>>>     uint32_t esi;
>>>>>>>     uint32_t edi;
>>>>>>>     uint32_t ebp;
>>>>>>>     uint32_t eax;
>>>>>>>     uint32_t eip;
>>>>>>>     uint32_t esp;
>>>>>>>     uint32_t eflags;
>>>>>>>     uint16_t cs;
>>>>>>>     uint16_t ss;
>>>>>>>     uint16_t es;
>>>>>>>     uint16_t ds;
>>>>>>>     uint16_t fs;
>>>>>>>     uint16_t gs;
>>>>>>> };
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We could however do something similar to what's done in ARM and 
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> a union of both the 32 and the 64bit registers in case we want to
>>>>>>> start the vCPU in 64bit mode sometime in the future.
>>>>>> What you gave above is suitable only for VCPUOP_initialise afaict.
>>>>>> Did you intend this to be the case?
>>>>> Certainly not, this should also be used by XEN_DOMCTL_setvcpucontext.
>>>>> I'm afraid I'm missing something obvious, but I don't see why this
>>>>> couldn't be used by XEN_DOMCTL_setvcpucontext TBH, can you please 
>>>>> clarify?
>>>> set/getvcpucontext need to pickle all state for save/restore/migration,
>>>> not just the start of day state.
>>> HVM migration doesn't use set/getvcpucontext.
>>>
>>> I would expect an HVMLite-based-PVH to follow suit and just use
>>> set/gethvmcontext.
>> Oh, right, but that doesn't mean the respective domctl-s should
>> produce unconsumable data, or have to guess how to interpret
>> what gets passed in. I.e. at the very minimum the domctl-s then
>> should be disallowed for PVH if they can#t be made work right.
> Right, the problem is that if I introduce this new vcpu_context
> structure plain HVM guests are also going to use it.
>
> This is not a problem with the VCPU_initialize op, because it was not
> available to HVM guests. But it's going to be a problem for
> XEN_DOMCTL_{get/set}vcpucontext consumers, since the structure
> taken/returned by the hypercall is going to change when the target is a
> HVM guest, and this is a can of worms I might prefer to avoid opening.
>
> One partial solution would be to allow the usage of this new struct only
> for the VCPU_initialize hypercall for HVM guests, and keep using the old
> structures for the domctls, aiming at removing them once PV support is
> dropped from Xen, but that looks half-baked IMHO.

PV and HVM "vcpu state" are fundamentally different because they are
fundamentally different kinds of guest.  Lets not try and mash them
together.

I would go with Jan's suggestion and make
XEN_DOMCTL_{get/set}vcpucontext ineligible for use on HVM guests.

The state of an HVMLite vcpu can already be set with
XEN_DOMCTL_sethvmcontext and a stream containing just a single hvm vcpu
record, and retrieved with XEN_DOMCTL_gethvmcontext_partial.

~Andrew

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Thread overview: 121+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-03 11:34 [PATCH v3 00/32] Introduce HVM without dm and new boot ABI Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-03 11:34 ` [PATCH v3 01/32] libxc: split x86 HVM setup_guest into smaller logical functions Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-06 10:45   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-28 11:22   ` Wei Liu
2015-07-03 11:34 ` [PATCH v3 02/32] libxc: unify xc_dom_p2m_{host/guest} Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-06 10:49   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-28 11:22   ` Wei Liu
2015-07-03 11:34 ` [PATCH v3 03/32] libxc: introduce the notion of a container type Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-06 12:01   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-28 11:22   ` Wei Liu
2015-07-03 11:34 ` [PATCH v3 04/32] libxc: introduce a domain loader for HVM guest firmware Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-06 12:11   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-28 11:22   ` Wei Liu
2015-07-03 11:34 ` [PATCH v3 05/32] libxc: make arch_setup_meminit a xc_dom_arch hook Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-06 12:23   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-27 10:40     ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-07-28 11:22   ` Wei Liu
2015-07-03 11:34 ` [PATCH v3 06/32] libxc: make arch_setup_boot{init/late} xc_dom_arch hooks Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-06 12:27   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-28 11:22   ` Wei Liu
2015-07-03 11:34 ` [PATCH v3 07/32] xen/x86: fix arch_set_info_guest for HVM guests Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-06 12:58   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-23 10:14     ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-07-10 18:39   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-07-10 18:47   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-07-23 10:17     ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-07-13 14:01   ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-23 10:25     ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-07-23 11:29       ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-23 11:41         ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-23 15:10           ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-07-23 15:32             ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-23 15:48               ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-07-23 15:58                 ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-23 16:00                 ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-23 16:15                   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-23 16:19                     ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-23 16:49                       ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-23 17:06                         ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-07-23 16:56                       ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-07-23 17:12                         ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2015-07-24  8:22                           ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-24  9:59                             ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-07-24 10:46                               ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-24 12:11                                 ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-07-24 12:44                                   ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-24 15:26                                     ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-07-24 15:49                                       ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-24 16:54                                         ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-07-24 17:36                                           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-07-27 11:55                                             ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-08-03 16:55                                           ` Andrew Cooper
2015-08-03 17:31                                             ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-08-04 18:08                                               ` Andrew Cooper
2015-08-05  9:53                                                 ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-08-05 15:39                                                   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-08-05 16:40                                                     ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-08-05 16:46                                                       ` Andrew Cooper
2015-08-05 17:11                                                         ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-08-05 19:00                                                           ` Andrew Cooper
2015-08-07 12:15                                                           ` Tim Deegan
2015-08-11  7:26                                                 ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-24 11:11                               ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-24 11:28                                 ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-24 11:49                                   ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-24 11:46                                 ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-24 11:49                                 ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-07-24 12:41                                   ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-24 15:28                                     ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-07-03 11:34 ` [PATCH v3 08/32] libxc: introduce a xc_dom_arch for hvm-3.0-x86_32 guests Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-06 13:40   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-03 11:34 ` [PATCH v3 09/32] libxl: switch HVM domain building to use xc_dom_* helpers Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-28 11:22   ` Wei Liu
2015-07-28 14:26     ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-07-28 14:29       ` Wei Liu
2015-07-03 11:34 ` [PATCH v3 10/32] libxc: remove dead HVM building code Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-06 13:46   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-23 10:27     ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-07-03 11:34 ` [PATCH v3 11/32] xen/x86: add bitmap of enabled emulated devices Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-06 14:10   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-07  7:26     ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-23 10:29     ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-07-03 11:34 ` [PATCH v3 12/32] xen/x86: allow disabling the emulated local apic Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-03 11:34 ` [PATCH v3 13/32] xen/x86: allow disabling the emulated HPET Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-03 11:34 ` [PATCH v3 14/32] xen/x86: allow disabling the pmtimer Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-03 11:34 ` [PATCH v3 15/32] xen/x86: allow disabling the emulated RTC Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-03 11:34 ` [PATCH v3 16/32] xen/x86: allow disabling the emulated IO APIC Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-03 11:34 ` [PATCH v3 17/32] xen/x86: allow disabling the emulated PIC Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-03 11:34 ` [PATCH v3 18/32] xen/x86: allow disabling the emulated pmu Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-03 11:34 ` [PATCH v3 19/32] xen/x86: allow disabling the emulated VGA Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-03 11:34 ` [PATCH v3 20/32] xen/x86: allow disabling the emulated IOMMU Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-03 11:34 ` [PATCH v3 21/32] xen/x86: allow disabling all emulated devices inside of Xen Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-03 11:35 ` [PATCH v3 22/32] elfnotes: intorduce a new PHYS_ENTRY elfnote Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-03 11:35 ` [PATCH v3 23/32] libxc: allow creating domains without emulated devices Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-28 11:22   ` Wei Liu
2015-07-03 11:35 ` [PATCH v3 24/32] xen: allow HVM guests to use XENMEM_memory_map Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-03 11:35 ` [PATCH v3 25/32] xen/x86: allow HVM guests to use hypercalls to bring up vCPUs Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-03 11:35 ` [PATCH v3 26/32] xenconsole: try to attach to PV console if HVM fails Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-14 13:46   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-07-23 10:30     ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-07-03 11:35 ` [PATCH v3 27/32] libxc: change the position of the special pages Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-03 15:36   ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-07-10 19:06     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-07-23 10:42       ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-07-03 11:35 ` [PATCH v3 28/32] libxc/xen: introduce HVM_PARAM_CMDLINE_PFN Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-03 11:35 ` [PATCH v3 29/32] libxc/xen: introduce HVM_PARAM_FIRST_FREE_PFN Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-10 19:05   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-07-23 10:46     ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-07-03 11:35 ` [PATCH v3 30/32] libxc/xen: introduce HVM_PARAM_MODLIST_PFN Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-03 11:35 ` [PATCH v3 31/32] libxc: switch xc_dom_elfloader to be used with HVMlite domains Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-10 19:07   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-07-23 10:48     ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-07-03 11:35 ` [PATCH v3 32/32] libxl: allow the creation of HVM domains without a device model Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-28 11:22   ` Wei Liu
2015-07-29 14:43     ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-07-29 14:50       ` Wei Liu
2015-07-29 14:58       ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-03 16:19 ` [PATCH v3 00/32] Introduce HVM without dm and new boot ABI David Vrabel
2015-07-03 16:36   ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-07-10 17:44     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-07-10 18:01       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk

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