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From: "Jan Beulich" <jbeulich@suse.com>
To: andrew.cooper3@citrix.com
Cc: Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com, wei.liu2@citrix.com, xen-devel@lists.xen.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 26/26] tools/libxc: Calculate xstate cpuid leaf from guest information
Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2016 18:56:22 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5705BE4602000078000E5EC5@prv-mh.provo.novell.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5705AC8D.8010307@citrix.com>

>>> Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com> 04/07/16 2:40 AM >>>
>On 07/04/2016 01:16, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>> Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com> 04/05/16 7:49 PM >>>
>>> There is no possible way of avoiding having a whitelist somewhere, which
>>> limits what Xen will tolerate supporting for the guest.
>> Right, but preferably in exactly one place. And imo that ought to be
>> info->xfeature_mask.
>
>info->xfeature_mask is actually Xen's limit, as obtained from
>XEN_DOMCTL_getvcpuextstate, so is an authoritative source of "the
>maximum Xen will support".
>
>However, the guest_xfeature_mask must be generated and used as this
>patch.  Without it, a domU will break if it migrates from a more capable
>xstate host to a less capable host, as using info->xfeature_mask alone
>leaks in state which should be levelled out.
>
>Currently upstream, heterogeneous migration of domains using xsave is
>broken if the domain first boots on the more-capable host.

I don't follow, I'm afraid: To me this looks like two separate things. One is to
suitably level the guest (via its config file), and the other is to not allow it to
use things the host doesn't support. If you want the guest to be migratable
to a less capable host, you need to configure the guest accordingly instead
of relying on a second instance of white listing.

Jan


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Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-23 16:36 [PATCH v4 00/26] x86: Improvements to cpuid handling for guests Andrew Cooper
2016-03-23 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 01/26] xen/public: Export cpu featureset information in the public API Andrew Cooper
2016-03-24 14:08   ` Jan Beulich
2016-03-24 14:12     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-03-24 14:16       ` Jan Beulich
2016-03-23 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 02/26] xen/x86: Script to automatically process featureset information Andrew Cooper
2016-03-23 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 03/26] xen/x86: Collect more cpuid feature leaves Andrew Cooper
2016-03-23 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 04/26] xen/x86: Mask out unknown features from Xen's capabilities Andrew Cooper
2016-03-23 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 05/26] xen/x86: Annotate special features Andrew Cooper
2016-03-23 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 06/26] xen/x86: Annotate VM applicability in featureset Andrew Cooper
2016-03-23 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 07/26] xen/x86: Calculate maximum host and guest featuresets Andrew Cooper
2016-03-29  8:57   ` Jan Beulich
2016-03-23 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 08/26] xen/x86: Generate deep dependencies of features Andrew Cooper
2016-03-24 16:16   ` Jan Beulich
2016-03-23 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 09/26] xen/x86: Clear dependent features when clearing a cpu cap Andrew Cooper
2016-03-23 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 10/26] xen/x86: Improve disabling of features which have dependencies Andrew Cooper
2016-03-28 15:18   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-23 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 11/26] xen/x86: Improvements to in-hypervisor cpuid sanity checks Andrew Cooper
2016-03-24 15:38   ` Andrew Cooper
2016-03-24 16:47   ` Jan Beulich
2016-03-24 17:01     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-03-24 17:11       ` Jan Beulich
2016-03-24 17:12         ` Andrew Cooper
2016-03-28 15:29   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-05 15:25     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-03-23 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 12/26] x86/cpu: Move set_cpumask() calls into c_early_init() Andrew Cooper
2016-03-28 15:55   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-05 16:19     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-03-23 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 13/26] x86/cpu: Sysctl and common infrastructure for levelling context switching Andrew Cooper
2016-03-24 16:58   ` Jan Beulich
2016-03-28 16:12   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-05 16:33     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-03-28 17:37   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-23 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 14/26] x86/cpu: Rework AMD masking MSR setup Andrew Cooper
2016-03-28 18:55   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-05 16:44     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-03-23 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 15/26] x86/cpu: Rework Intel masking/faulting setup Andrew Cooper
2016-03-28 19:14   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-05 16:45     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-03-23 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 16/26] x86/cpu: Context switch cpuid masks and faulting state in context_switch() Andrew Cooper
2016-03-28 19:27   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-05 18:34     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-03-23 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 17/26] x86/pv: Provide custom cpumasks for PV domains Andrew Cooper
2016-03-28 19:40   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-05 16:55     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-03-23 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 18/26] x86/domctl: Update PV domain cpumasks when setting cpuid policy Andrew Cooper
2016-03-24 17:04   ` Jan Beulich
2016-03-24 17:05     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-03-28 19:51   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-23 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 19/26] xen+tools: Export maximum host and guest cpu featuresets via SYSCTL Andrew Cooper
2016-03-28 19:59   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-23 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 20/26] tools/libxc: Modify bitmap operations to take void pointers Andrew Cooper
2016-03-28 20:05   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-23 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 21/26] tools/libxc: Use public/featureset.h for cpuid policy generation Andrew Cooper
2016-03-28 20:07   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-23 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 22/26] tools/libxc: Expose the automatically generated cpu featuremask information Andrew Cooper
2016-03-28 20:08   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-23 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 23/26] tools: Utility for dealing with featuresets Andrew Cooper
2016-03-28 20:26   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-23 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 24/26] tools/libxc: Wire a featureset through to cpuid policy logic Andrew Cooper
2016-03-28 20:39   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-23 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 25/26] tools/libxc: Use featuresets rather than guesswork Andrew Cooper
2016-03-23 16:36 ` [PATCH v4 26/26] tools/libxc: Calculate xstate cpuid leaf from guest information Andrew Cooper
2016-03-24 17:20   ` Wei Liu
2016-03-31  7:48   ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-05 17:48     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-04-07  0:16       ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-07  0:40         ` Andrew Cooper
2016-04-07  0:56           ` Jan Beulich [this message]
2016-04-07 11:34             ` Andrew Cooper
2016-03-24 10:27 ` [PATCH v4 00/26] x86: Improvements to cpuid handling for guests Jan Beulich
2016-03-24 10:28   ` Andrew Cooper

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