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From: "Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@suse.com>
To: Adrian Pop <apop@bitdefender.com>
Cc: Tamas K Lengyel <tamas@tklengyel.com>,
	Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	Razvan Cojocaru <rcojocaru@bitdefender.com>,
	George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] x86/altp2m: Add a hvmop for setting the suppress #VE bit
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2017 07:08:43 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5936C57B020000780015FD22@prv-mh.provo.novell.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170606130059.GA12361@hel>

>>> On 06.06.17 at 15:00, <apop@bitdefender.com> wrote:
> On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 08:38:33AM -0600, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> >>> On 18.05.17 at 17:07, <apop@bitdefender.com> wrote:
>> > +
>> > +    if ( !cpu_has_vmx )
>> > +        return -EOPNOTSUPP;
>> 
>> Is this enough? Wouldn't it be better to signal the caller whenever
>> hardware (or even software) isn't going to honor the request?
> 
> Well, the caller checks the return value.  The libxc function
> xc_altp2m_set_suppress_ve for instance will return a negative in this
> case.

The question wasn't what the caller does but whether checking just
cpu_has_vmx is enough. What if you're running on a machine with
VMX but no #VE support?

>> And then there are two general questions: Without a libxc layer
>> function, how is one supposed to use this new sub-op? Is it
>> really intended to permit a guest to call this for itself?
>  
> Well, the sub-op could be used from a Linux kernel module if libxc is
> not available if struct xen_hvm_altp2m_op and struct
> xen_hvm_altp2m_set_suppress_ve are defined.
> 
> Our use case, though, involves either Dom0 or a "privileged" DomU
> altering the suppress #VE bit for the target guest.

This doesn't really answer the question: What are the security
implications if a guest can invoke this on itself?

(FTR I think my first question was kind of pointless, as patch 3
looks like it does introduce a libxc function; I simply didn't realize
that back then, because I'd generally have expected the
consumer of the hypercall to be introduce together with the
producer.)

Jan


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Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-18 15:07 [PATCH 0/3] x86: Add a hvmop for setting the #VE suppress bit Adrian Pop
2017-05-18 15:07 ` [PATCH 1/3] x86/mm: Change default value for suppress #VE in set_mem_access() Adrian Pop
2017-05-18 15:07 ` [PATCH 2/3] x86/altp2m: Add a hvmop for setting the suppress #VE bit Adrian Pop
2017-05-18 17:27   ` Tamas K Lengyel
2017-05-23 12:03     ` Adrian Pop
2017-05-29 14:38   ` Jan Beulich
2017-06-06 13:00     ` Adrian Pop
2017-06-06 13:08       ` Jan Beulich [this message]
2017-06-08 13:49         ` Adrian Pop
2017-06-08 14:08           ` Jan Beulich
2017-06-09 14:18             ` Adrian Pop
2017-05-18 15:07 ` [PATCH 3/3] libxc: Add support for the altp2m suppress #VE hvmop Adrian Pop

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