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From: Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>
To: Dario Faggioli <dario.faggioli@citrix.com>,
	George Dunlap <george.dunlap@citrix.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>
Cc: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>, Peng Fan <peng.fan@nxp.com>,
	Steve Capper <Steve.Capper@arm.com>,
	George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Punit Agrawal <punit.agrawal@arm.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>, Peng Fan <van.freenix@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/5] xen/arm: support big.little SoC
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 12:24:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7b87557d-39ee-0b1d-7163-00317571569f@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1474533783.4393.312.camel@citrix.com>

Hi Dario,

On 22/09/16 09:43, Dario Faggioli wrote:
> On Wed, 2016-09-21 at 20:28 +0100, Julien Grall wrote:
>> On 21/09/2016 16:45, Dario Faggioli wrote:
>>> This does not seem to match with what has been said at some point
>>> in
>>> this thread... And if it's like that, how's that possible, if the
>>> pcpus' ISAs are (even only slightly) different?
>>
>> Right, at some point I mentioned that the set of errata and features
>> will be different between processor.
>>
> Yes, I read that, but wasn't (and still am not) sure about whether or
> not that meant a vcpu can move freely between classes or not, in the
> way that the scheduler does that.
>
> In fact, you say:
>
>> With a bit of work in Xen, it would be possible to do move the vCPU
>> between big and LITTLE cpus. As mentioned above, we could sanitize
>> the
>> features to only enable a common set.
>> You can view the big.LITTLE
>> problem as a local live migration between two kind of CPUs.
>>
> Local migration basically --from the vcpu perspective-- means create a
> new vcpu, stop the original vcpu, copy the state from original to new,
> destroy the original vcpu and start the new one. My point is that this
> is not something that can be done within nor initiated by the
> scheduler, e.g., during a context switch or a vcpu wakeup!

By local migration, I meant from the perspective of the hypervisor. In 
the hypervisor you have to trap feature registers and other 
implementation defined registers to show the same value across all the 
physical CPUs.

You don't need to recreate the vCPU every time you move from one set of 
CPUs to another one. Sorry for the confusion.

Regards,
-- 
Julien Grall

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-22 11:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-19  2:08 [RFC 0/5] xen/arm: support big.little SoC van.freenix
2016-09-19  2:08 ` [RFC 1/5] xen/arm: domain_build: setting opt_dom0_max_vcpus according to cpupool0 info van.freenix
2016-09-19  2:08 ` [RFC 2/5] xen: cpupool: introduce cpupool_arch_info van.freenix
2016-09-19  2:08 ` [RFC 3/5] xen: cpupool: add arch cpupool hook van.freenix
2016-09-19  2:08 ` [RFC 4/5] xen/arm: move vpidr from arch_domain to arch_vcpu van.freenix
2016-09-19  2:08 ` [RFC 5/5] xen/arm: cpupool: implement arch_domain_cpupool_compatible van.freenix
2016-09-19  8:09 ` [RFC 0/5] xen/arm: support big.little SoC Julien Grall
2016-09-19  8:36   ` Peng Fan
2016-09-19  8:53     ` Julien Grall
2016-09-19  9:38       ` Peng Fan
2016-09-19  9:59         ` Julien Grall
2016-09-19 13:15           ` Peng Fan
2016-09-19 20:56             ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-09-19  9:45       ` George Dunlap
2016-09-19 10:06         ` Julien Grall
2016-09-19 10:23           ` Juergen Gross
2016-09-19 17:18             ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-19 21:03               ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-09-19 22:55                 ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-20  0:01                   ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-09-20  0:54                     ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-20 10:03                       ` Peng Fan
2016-09-20 10:27                         ` George Dunlap
2016-09-20 15:34                           ` Julien Grall
2016-09-20 17:24                             ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-20 19:09                             ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-09-20 19:41                               ` Julien Grall
2016-09-20 20:17                                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-09-21  8:38                                   ` Peng Fan
2016-09-21  9:22                                     ` George Dunlap
2016-09-21 12:35                                       ` Peng Fan
2016-09-21 15:00                                       ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-21 10:15                                     ` Julien Grall
2016-09-21 12:28                                       ` Peng Fan
2016-09-21 15:06                                         ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-22  9:45                                       ` Peng Fan
2016-09-22 11:21                                         ` Julien Grall
2016-09-23  2:38                                           ` Peng Fan
2016-09-21 10:09                                   ` Julien Grall
2016-09-21 10:22                                     ` George Dunlap
2016-09-21 13:06                                       ` Julien Grall
2016-09-21 15:45                                         ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-21 19:28                                           ` Julien Grall
2016-09-22  6:16                                             ` Peng Fan
2016-09-22  8:43                                             ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-22 11:24                                               ` Julien Grall [this message]
2016-09-22 16:31                                                 ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-23 13:56                                                   ` Julien Grall
2016-09-21 18:13                                         ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-09-21 19:11                                           ` Julien Grall
2016-09-21 19:21                                             ` Julien Grall
2016-09-21 23:45                                             ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-09-22  6:49                                             ` Peng Fan
2016-09-22  8:50                                               ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-22  9:27                                                 ` Peng Fan
2016-09-22  9:51                                                   ` George Dunlap
2016-09-22 10:09                                                     ` Peng Fan
2016-09-22 10:39                                                       ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-22 10:13                                                     ` Juergen Gross
2016-09-22  9:52                                                   ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-22 11:29                                                   ` Julien Grall
2016-09-22 17:31                                                     ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-09-22 18:54                                                       ` Julien Grall
2016-09-23  2:14                                                         ` Peng Fan
2016-09-23  9:24                                                           ` Julien Grall
2016-09-23 10:05                                                             ` Peng Fan
2016-09-23 10:15                                                               ` Julien Grall
2016-09-23 13:36                                                                 ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-24  1:57                                                                   ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-09-23 13:52                                                               ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-24  1:35                                                         ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-09-23  2:03                                                     ` Peng Fan
2016-09-22 10:05                                                 ` Peng Fan
2016-09-22 16:26                                                   ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-22 17:33                                                     ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-09-21 12:38                                     ` Peng Fan
2016-09-21  9:45                         ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-20 10:18                     ` George Dunlap
2016-09-19 20:55             ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-09-19 10:33           ` George Dunlap
2016-09-19 13:33             ` Peng Fan
2016-09-20  0:11               ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-20  6:18                 ` Peng Fan
2016-09-19 16:43             ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-19 13:08       ` Peng Fan

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