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* Xen and Microservices.
       [not found] <314217522.1538685.1619859473008.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
@ 2021-05-01  8:57 ` Jason Long
  2021-05-02  7:15   ` TMC
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Jason Long @ 2021-05-01  8:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Xen-users, Xen-devel

Hello,
Why microservices use containers like Docker and not Hypervisors like Xen?

Thanks.


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* Re: Xen and Microservices.
  2021-05-01  8:57 ` Xen and Microservices Jason Long
@ 2021-05-02  7:15   ` TMC
  2021-05-02  8:53     ` Jason Long
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: TMC @ 2021-05-02  7:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jason Long; +Cc: Xen-users, Xen-devel

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Jason,
containers, like Docker and kubernetes are designed to let you
sandbox/isolate one application or one service... without having to also
host an operating system for each container.

 Hypervisors like XEN are designed for operating systems, not single
applications.

Hope this helps

Tomasz

On Sat, 1 May 2021 at 18:58, Jason Long <hack3rcon@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> Why microservices use containers like Docker and not Hypervisors like Xen?
>
> Thanks.
>
>

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* Re: Xen and Microservices.
  2021-05-02  7:15   ` TMC
@ 2021-05-02  8:53     ` Jason Long
  2021-05-02 11:42       ` Pierre-Philipp Braun
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Jason Long @ 2021-05-02  8:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: TMC; +Cc: Xen-users, Xen-devel

Thank you.
How about Unikernel?






On Sunday, May 2, 2021, 11:46:01 AM GMT+4:30, TMC <tmciolek@gmail.com> wrote: 





Jason,
containers, like Docker and kubernetes are designed to let you sandbox/isolate one application or one service... without having to also host an operating system for each container.

 Hypervisors like XEN are designed for operating systems, not single applications. 

Hope this helps

Tomasz

On Sat, 1 May 2021 at 18:58, Jason Long <hack3rcon@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> Why microservices use containers like Docker and not Hypervisors like Xen?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 


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* Re: Xen and Microservices.
  2021-05-02  8:53     ` Jason Long
@ 2021-05-02 11:42       ` Pierre-Philipp Braun
  2021-05-02 16:03         ` Jason Long
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Pierre-Philipp Braun @ 2021-05-02 11:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jason Long, TMC; +Cc: Xen-users, Xen-devel

On 02/05/2021 11:53, Jason Long wrote:
> Thank you.
> How about Unikernel?

Unikernel is - in short - an attempt to even more isolate an application 
and its libraries (and bind them together in a single binary).  However 
it's pretty hard to setup and prepare, and therefore didn't gain massive 
adoption.

I don't know if a XEN Unikernel such as MirageOS or Rump would construct 
it can provide even better performance than OS-level virtualization, but 
I suppose it was part of the goal.

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* Re: Xen and Microservices.
  2021-05-02 11:42       ` Pierre-Philipp Braun
@ 2021-05-02 16:03         ` Jason Long
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Jason Long @ 2021-05-02 16:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: TMC, Pierre-Philipp Braun; +Cc: Xen-users, Xen-devel

Thanks.
Thus, Unikernel is something like Microservice? Any success?






On Sunday, May 2, 2021, 04:15:01 PM GMT+4:30, Pierre-Philipp Braun <pbraun@nethence.com> wrote: 





On 02/05/2021 11:53, Jason Long wrote:

> Thank you.
> How about Unikernel?


Unikernel is - in short - an attempt to even more isolate an application 
and its libraries (and bind them together in a single binary).  However 
it's pretty hard to setup and prepare, and therefore didn't gain massive 
adoption.

I don't know if a XEN Unikernel such as MirageOS or Rump would construct 
it can provide even better performance than OS-level virtualization, but 
I suppose it was part of the goal.

-- 
Pierre-Philipp Braun
SMTP Health Campaign: enforce STARTTLS and verify MX certificates
<https://nethence.com/smtp/
>



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