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From: Tamas K Lengyel <tamas.k.lengyel@gmail.com>
To: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
Cc: "Tamas K Lengyel" <tamas.lengyel@intel.com>,
	"Wei Liu" <wl@xen.org>,
	"Andrew Cooper" <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	"George Dunlap" <george.dunlap@citrix.com>,
	Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	"Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH for-4.14] x86/hap: use get_gfn_type in hap_update_paging_modes
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 07:43:38 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABfawhk4N9MsjWqf87hPpyEHP27E=SpiHUSC+bVhAh4xW9-n8w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17dab1c9-175a-3faa-3937-9102e09f72b0@suse.com>

On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 7:36 AM Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com> wrote:
>
> On 17.06.2020 15:31, Tamas K Lengyel wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 7:28 AM Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 17.06.2020 15:21, Tamas K Lengyel wrote:
> >>> On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 7:04 AM Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 17.06.2020 15:00, Tamas K Lengyel wrote:
> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 3:59 AM Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> If there are code paths of both kinds, which approach to use in
> >>>>>> vmx_load_pdptrs() may need to be chosen based on what
> >>>>>> paging_locked_by_me() returns. Or perhaps an unlocked query is
> >>>>>> fine in either case?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Perhaps adjusting vmx_load_pdptrs to chose the unlocked query would be
> >>>>> fine. But at that point what is the reason for having the lock
> >>>>> ordering at all? Why not just have a single recursive lock and avoid
> >>>>> issues like this altogether?
> >>>>
> >>>> With just a single lock, contention problems we already know we
> >>>> have would be even worse. When the current locking model was
> >>>> introduced, there was actually a plan to make gfn_lock() more
> >>>> fine-grained (i.e. not simply "de-generate" to p2m_lock()), for
> >>>> example.
> >>>
> >>> Sigh. Well, I've been checking and adjust vmx_load_pdptrs to use an
> >>> unlocked query doesn't seem as straightforward because, well, there is
> >>> no unlocked version of p2m_get_page_from_gfn which would also do the
> >>> "fixups".
> >>
> >> Which fixups do we need here, in particular? Of course, whenever
> >> any fixups get done, the operation can't be lock-less.
> >>
> >>> What seems redundant to me though is that
> >>> hap_update_paging_modes takes both the p2m_lock via get_gfn PLUS the
> >>> paging_lock. Does it really need to take the paging_lock?
> >>
> >> From mm-locks.h's comments:
> >>
> >>  * For HAP, it protects the NPT/EPT tables and mode changes.
> >
> > We do the population of the EPT as part of fork_page() if there was a
> > hole in the p2m when the query was issued using P2M_ALLOC (or
> > P2M_UNSHARE). I checked and without the paging lock held it throws up
> > at hap_alloc's ASSERT.. So yea, currently I don't think we have a
> > better route then what I currently sent in.
>
> You didn't answer my question regarding the "fixups" needed, so
> for the moment it's not clear to me yet whether indeed there's
> no better way.

Umm, I did. The fixups entail populating the EPT from the parent as I
described above.

Tamas


  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-17 13:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-16 19:31 [PATCH for-4.14] x86/hap: use get_gfn_type in hap_update_paging_modes Tamas K Lengyel
2020-06-17  8:23 ` Roger Pau Monné
2020-06-17 12:49   ` Tamas K Lengyel
2020-06-17 14:29     ` Roger Pau Monné
2020-06-17 14:45       ` Tamas K Lengyel
2020-06-17  9:58 ` Jan Beulich
2020-06-17 13:00   ` Tamas K Lengyel
2020-06-17 13:04     ` Jan Beulich
2020-06-17 13:21       ` Tamas K Lengyel
2020-06-17 13:28         ` Jan Beulich
2020-06-17 13:31           ` Tamas K Lengyel
2020-06-17 13:36             ` Jan Beulich
2020-06-17 13:43               ` Tamas K Lengyel [this message]
2020-06-17 14:24                 ` Jan Beulich
2020-06-17 14:49                   ` Tamas K Lengyel
2020-06-17 15:46                     ` Jan Beulich
2020-06-17 15:54                       ` Tamas K Lengyel
2020-06-17 15:59                         ` Tamas K Lengyel

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