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From: "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
To: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
Cc: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	Wei Liu <wl@xen.org>, Paul Durrant <paul@xen.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] x86/CPUID: shrink max_{,sub}leaf fields according to actual leaf contents
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 14:09:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YH1y7pFbtz/aWMJ2@Air-de-Roger> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1612e2ac-87ad-4f7f-aaed-05486365b9dc@suse.com>

On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 01:46:02PM +0200, Jan Beulich wrote:
> On 19.04.2021 11:16, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
> > Adding Paul also for the Viridian part.
> > 
> > On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 03:16:41PM +0200, Jan Beulich wrote:
> >> Zapping leaf data for out of range leaves is just one half of it: To
> >> avoid guests (bogusly or worse) inferring information from mere leaf
> >> presence, also shrink maximum indicators such that the respective
> >> trailing entry is not all blank (unless of course it's the initial
> >> subleaf of a leaf that's not the final one).
> >>
> >> This is also in preparation of bumping the maximum basic leaf we
> >> support, to ensure guests not getting exposed related features won't
> >> observe a change in behavior.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
> >> ---
> >> v3: Record the actual non-empty subleaf in p->basic.raw[0x7], rather
> >>     than subleaf 0. Re-base over Viridian leaf 40000005 addition.
> >> v2: New.
> >>
> >> --- a/tools/tests/cpu-policy/test-cpu-policy.c
> >> +++ b/tools/tests/cpu-policy/test-cpu-policy.c
> >> @@ -8,10 +8,13 @@
> >>  #include <err.h>
> >>  
> >>  #include <xen-tools/libs.h>
> >> +#include <xen/asm/x86-defns.h>
> >>  #include <xen/asm/x86-vendors.h>
> >>  #include <xen/lib/x86/cpu-policy.h>
> >>  #include <xen/domctl.h>
> >>  
> >> +#define XSTATE_FP_SSE  (X86_XCR0_FP | X86_XCR0_SSE)
> >> +
> >>  static unsigned int nr_failures;
> >>  #define fail(fmt, ...)                          \
> >>  ({                                              \
> >> @@ -553,6 +556,103 @@ static void test_cpuid_out_of_range_clea
> >>      }
> >>  }
> >>  
> >> +static void test_cpuid_maximum_leaf_shrinking(void)
> >> +{
> >> +    static const struct test {
> >> +        const char *name;
> >> +        struct cpuid_policy p;
> >> +    } tests[] = {
> >> +        {
> >> +            .name = "basic",
> >> +            .p = {
> >> +                /* Very basic information only. */
> >> +                .basic.max_leaf = 1,
> >> +                .basic.raw_fms = 0xc2,
> >> +            },
> >> +        },
> >> +        {
> >> +            .name = "cache",
> >> +            .p = {
> >> +                /* Cache subleaves present. */
> >> +                .basic.max_leaf = 4,
> >> +                .cache.subleaf[0].type = 1,
> > 
> > On a private conversation with Andrew he raised the issue that the
> > shrinking might be overly simplistic. For example if the x2APIC
> > feature bit in leaf 1 is set then the max leaf should be at least 0xb
> > in order to be able to fetch the x2APIC ID, even if it's 0.
> 
> But in such a case the "type" field of leaf 0xb's first sub-leaf is
> going to be non-zero, isn't it?

Right, as type 0 is invalid according to Intel SDM, so you will never
be able to shrink below 0xb while having x2APIC set.

I still wonder however if there's any other such dependency, where
shrinking the max cpuid leaf could force us to drop features exposed
in inferior leaves.

> > I also wonder if we are shrinking the leaves too much, for example we
> > should always report up to 0x40000000 (or 0x40000100) plus the Xen
> > leaves, as we never hide those and it's also documented in the public
> > headers?
> 
> Not sure I follow - I'm likely confused by you quoting 0x40000000
> and 0x40000100 rather than 0x400000nn and 0x400001nn, as elsewhere
> you suggested we may not want to clip sub-leaves there. Can you
> clarify whether you really mean only the first sub-leaves (each)
> here, and if so why you say "up to"? Furthermore for the Xen leaves
> I don't think I do excessive clipping ...

No, sorry, I was confused. What you do is fine, I would even (as said
in the previous patch) just report the max leaf unconditionally even
if empty, as we are not leaking any hardware state in this case.

Thanks, Roger.


  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-19 12:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-16 13:16 [PATCH v3] x86/CPUID: shrink max_{,sub}leaf fields according to actual leaf contents Jan Beulich
2021-04-19  9:16 ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-04-19 11:46   ` Jan Beulich
2021-04-19 12:09     ` Roger Pau Monné [this message]
2021-04-19 12:29       ` Jan Beulich
2021-04-20  8:41         ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-04-22 11:38 ` Ping: " Jan Beulich
2021-04-22 12:34   ` Paul Durrant
2021-04-22 12:36     ` Jan Beulich

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