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From: Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>
To: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@citrix.com>
Cc: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
	Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH raisin 3/4] Update config-4.6 and config-4.5 to point to stable branches
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:02:49 +0100 (BST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1606151501490.18449@sstabellini-ThinkPad-X260> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <57613871.3030906@citrix.com>

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, George Dunlap wrote:
> On 15/06/16 11:53, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> > On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, George Dunlap wrote:
> >> On 15/06/16 11:24, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016, George Dunlap wrote:
> >>>> On 14/06/16 11:01, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> >>>>> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016, George Dunlap wrote:
> >>>>>> On 14/06/16 10:40, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Mon, 13 Jun 2016, George Dunlap wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Point xen, qemu, and qemu-trad to stable-4.5 and -4.6 branches.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> And point the default libvirt to point to the libvirt 1.3.3
> >>>>>>>> maintenance branch, rather than xen-tested-master.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Also update OVMF revision for 4.6 to a version that builds with modern
> >>>>>>>> gccs.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Singed-off-by: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@citrix.com>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> CC: Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>
> >>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>>  configs/config-4.5     | 6 +++---
> >>>>>>>>  configs/config-4.6     | 8 ++++----
> >>>>>>>>  configs/config-master  | 3 +++
> >>>>>>>>  configs/config-url-git | 2 +-
> >>>>>>>>  4 files changed, 11 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> diff --git a/configs/config-4.5 b/configs/config-4.5
> >>>>>>>> index 4163b68..8db9a9d 100644
> >>>>>>>> --- a/configs/config-4.5
> >>>>>>>> +++ b/configs/config-4.5
> >>>>>>>> @@ -1,8 +1,8 @@
> >>>>>>>>  XEN_REVISION="origin/stable-4.5"
> >>>>>>>> -QEMU_REVISION="master"
> >>>>>>>> -QEMU_TRADITIONAL_REVISION="master"
> >>>>>>>> +QEMU_REVISION="origin/stable-4.5"
> >>>>>>>> +QEMU_TRADITIONAL_REVISION="origin/stable-4.5"
> >>>>>>>>  SEABIOS_REVISION="rel-1.7.5"
> >>>>>>>>  GRUB_REVISION="master"
> >>>>>>>> -LIBVIRT_REVISION="origin/xen-tested-master"
> >>>>>>>> +LIBVIRT_REVISION="origin/v1.3.3-maint"
> >>>>>>>>  OVMF_REVISION="cb9a7ebabcd6b8a49dc0854b2f9592d732b5afbd"
> >>>>>>>>  LINUX_REVISION="master"
> >>>>>>>> diff --git a/configs/config-4.6 b/configs/config-4.6
> >>>>>>>> index e8b2a09..b003a30 100644
> >>>>>>>> --- a/configs/config-4.6
> >>>>>>>> +++ b/configs/config-4.6
> >>>>>>>> @@ -1,8 +1,8 @@
> >>>>>>>>  XEN_REVISION="origin/stable-4.6"
> >>>>>>>> -QEMU_REVISION="master"
> >>>>>>>> -QEMU_TRADITIONAL_REVISION="master"
> >>>>>>>> +QEMU_REVISION="origin/stable-4.6"
> >>>>>>>> +QEMU_TRADITIONAL_REVISION="origin/stable-4.6"
> >>>>>>>>  SEABIOS_REVISION="rel-1.8.2"
> >>>>>>>>  GRUB_REVISION="master"
> >>>>>>>> -LIBVIRT_REVISION="origin/xen-tested-master"
> >>>>>>>> -OVMF_REVISION="cb9a7ebabcd6b8a49dc0854b2f9592d732b5afbd"
> >>>>>>>> +LIBVIRT_REVISION="origin/v1.3.3-maint"
> >>>>>>>> +OVMF_REVISION="52a99493cce88a9d4ec8a02d7f1bd1a1001ce60d"
> >>>>>>>>  LINUX_REVISION="master"
> >>>>>>>> diff --git a/configs/config-master b/configs/config-master
> >>>>>>>> index bd26ce3..fce7436 100644
> >>>>>>>> --- a/configs/config-master
> >>>>>>>> +++ b/configs/config-master
> >>>>>>>> @@ -6,3 +6,6 @@ GRUB_REVISION="master"
> >>>>>>>>  LIBVIRT_REVISION="origin/xen-tested-master"
> >>>>>>>>  OVMF_REVISION="origin/xen-tested-master"
> >>>>>>>>  LINUX_REVISION="master"
> >>>>>>>> +
> >>>>>>>> +# oss-tested branch
> >>>>>>>> +LIBVIRT_URL="git://xenbits.xen.org/libvirt.git"
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Why keep this around? I would remove it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Because...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> diff --git a/configs/config-url-git b/configs/config-url-git
> >>>>>>>> index 79813c4..614f522 100644
> >>>>>>>> --- a/configs/config-url-git
> >>>>>>>> +++ b/configs/config-url-git
> >>>>>>>> @@ -3,6 +3,6 @@ QEMU_URL="git://xenbits.xen.org/qemu-xen.git"
> >>>>>>>>  QEMU_TRADITIONAL_URL="git://xenbits.xen.org/qemu-xen-traditional.git"
> >>>>>>>>  SEABIOS_URL="git://xenbits.xen.org/seabios.git"
> >>>>>>>>  GRUB_URL="git://git.savannah.gnu.org/grub.git"
> >>>>>>>> -LIBVIRT_URL="git://xenbits.xen.org/libvirt.git"
> >>>>>>>> +LIBVIRT_URL="git://libvirt.org/libvirt.git"
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ...here, the LIBVIRT_URL in config-url-git is set to the libvirt.org URL
> >>>>>> so that the stable releases can be pointed to v1.3.3-maint instead. The
> >>>>>> xen.org repo doesn't contain the v1.3.3-maint branch, and the
> >>>>>> libvirt.org repo doesn't contain the 'xen-tested-master' branch.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I admit this is a bit ugly, *almost* separating things entirely but then
> >>>>>> not. But I don't see another easy way of having both the 1.3.3
> >>>>>> maintenance branch and the oss-tested branch. (Unless we started having
> >>>>>> osstest test the maintenance branch as well.)
> >>>>>  
> >>>>> I would drop git://xenbits.xen.org/libvirt.git and xen-tested-master
> >>>>> entirely and just stick to v1.3.3-maint everywhere. Or the other way
> >>>>> around.
> >>>>
> >>>> Well I assume that people building one of the releases want something
> >>>> relatively stable and supported, so xen-tested-master is obviously
> >>>> unsuitable (and might not actually be capable of building against Xen
> >>>> versions older than a certain point due to the fact that libxl cannot be
> >>>> both forward- and backward-compatible).  And I also assume that people
> >>>> building with XEN_RELEASE="master" want the bleeding edge of everything
> >>>> so that they can test new features (or indeed, so that they can write
> >>>> new features).  So I think we actually do want both -- a maintenance
> >>>> branch for releases, and xen-tested-master for developers and
> >>>> bleeding-edge users.
> >>>
> >>> Sure, we need to support both, but do they really need to be both
> >>> enabled in one of the example config files? We could just have the
> >>> libvirt xenbits tree as a comment.
> >>
> >> Well for that matter, why have a config-master at all?  Just say how to
> >> make one in the comments. :-)
> >>
> >> I thought part of the point of raisin was to be able to get up and
> >> running with a reasonable template without having to read or change a
> >> lot of the comments.  I don't really understand why anyone would want
> >> the development versions of Xen and qemu, but the stable maintenance
> >> release of libvirt.  Doesn't it make more sense to have "config-master"
> >> get you the development versions of everything?
> > 
> > The idea is to provide good templates and be very transparent on what
> > get cloned and built. It's the transparency here that it is weakening:
> > as a user I would prefer the libvirt tree not to change depending on the
> > version I write in the main config file. As a user, I would be surprised
> > if I saw this happening. That's why I was suggesting to keep to one
> > libvirt tree. Or if you would like to have two, then make the choice
> > obvious, not a consequence of a seemingly unrelated version setting.
> 
> By "libvirt tree", you mean the location of the libvirt repository?
> 
> I guess we have fairly different ideas about what users care about and
> what they'd find unexpected. :-)  I as a user wouldn't care a bit about
> URL I was downloading from, as long as I got the appropriate version.
> And I would be quite surprised to specify the "master" config, and get
> the bleeding edge of everything except libvirt.
> 
> We could just have it point to libvirt-master I suppose.  That risks
> having things in a broken state in the time between the inevitable
> regressions are introduced in libvirt-master and the time they get
> noticed and fixed.  But that doesn't seem to be terribly often these
> days.  What do you think?

libvirt master is good. After all master is for developers, so it makes
sense.

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Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-13 14:44 [PATCH raisin 0/4] Fixes for 4.6, update to 4.7 George Dunlap
2016-06-13 14:44 ` [PATCH raisin 1/4] components/xen: Actually disable rombios George Dunlap
2016-06-14  9:32   ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-06-13 14:44 ` [PATCH raisin 2/4] config: Separate config urls into a separate file George Dunlap
2016-06-14  9:34   ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-06-13 14:44 ` [PATCH raisin 3/4] Update config-4.6 and config-4.5 to point to stable branches George Dunlap
2016-06-14  9:40   ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-06-14  9:57     ` George Dunlap
2016-06-14 10:01       ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-06-14 10:10         ` George Dunlap
2016-06-15 10:24           ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-06-15 10:38             ` George Dunlap
2016-06-15 10:53               ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-06-15 11:13                 ` George Dunlap
2016-06-15 14:02                   ` Stefano Stabellini [this message]
2016-06-15 16:11                     ` George Dunlap
2016-06-13 14:44 ` [PATCH raisin 4/4] Update to 4.7, update qemu and qemu_traditional recipes George Dunlap
2016-06-14  9:46   ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-06-14 10:03     ` George Dunlap
2016-06-14 10:08       ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-06-14 10:17         ` George Dunlap
2016-06-14 10:31           ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-06-14 10:34             ` George Dunlap
2016-06-14 13:53               ` Anthony PERARD
2016-06-14 14:00                 ` George Dunlap
2016-06-14 14:23                   ` Anthony PERARD
2016-06-14 14:38                     ` George Dunlap
2016-06-15 10:39                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-06-15 10:42                   ` George Dunlap

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