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From: Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>
To: Andrii Anisov <andrii.anisov@gmail.com>, Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>, Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org>,
	xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	"andrii_anisov@epam.com" <andrii_anisov@epam.com>,
	Roger Pau Monne <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH v3] xen: introduce VCPUOP_register_runstate_phys_memory_area hypercall
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 13:12:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b07c98a5-00cc-a51f-2eda-ba4038f0f667@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <92d534ef-082e-58d7-a4ff-c74cf7c23195@gmail.com>

Hi,

On 11/06/2019 11:22, Andrii Anisov wrote:
> On 11.06.19 12:10, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>> @@ -35,8 +37,16 @@ arch_compat_vcpu_op(
>>>>>                 !compat_handle_okay(area.addr.h, 1) )
>>>>>                break;
>>>>> +        while( xchg(&v->runstate_in_use, 1) == 0);
>>>>
>>>> At the very least such loops want a cpu_relax() in their bodies.
>>>> But this being on a hypercall path - are there theoretical guarantees
>>>> that a guest can't abuse this to lock up a CPU?
>>> Hmmm, I suggested this but it looks like a guest may call the hypercall multiple
>>> time from different vCPU. So this could be a way to delay work on the CPU.
> 
> Julien, I'm not sure I understand how work on (p?)CPU could be delayed. We are 
> here with interrupts enabled, so here guest would just spend his own vcpu time 
> budget. 

Xen only supports only voluntary preemption. This means that if the hypercall 
run for a long time, you have no way to interrupt it and schedule another vCPU. 
In other words, the rest of the work on that specific pCPU would be delayed.

In this context, I think Jan is seeking guarantees that the lock can be taken in 
timely manner. If not, then we want to use a try-lock style.

Cheers,

-- 
Julien Grall

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-11 12:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-24 18:12 [PATCH RFC 2] [DO NOT APPLY] introduce VCPUOP_register_runstate_phys_memory_area hypercall Andrii Anisov
2019-05-24 18:12 ` [Xen-devel] " Andrii Anisov
2019-05-24 18:12 ` [PATCH v3] Introduce runstate area registration with phys address Andrii Anisov
2019-05-24 18:12   ` [Xen-devel] " Andrii Anisov
2019-05-24 18:12 ` [PATCH v3] xen: introduce VCPUOP_register_runstate_phys_memory_area hypercall Andrii Anisov
2019-05-24 18:12   ` [Xen-devel] " Andrii Anisov
2019-06-07 14:23   ` Jan Beulich
2019-06-10 11:44     ` Julien Grall
2019-06-11  9:10       ` Jan Beulich
2019-06-11 10:22         ` Andrii Anisov
2019-06-11 12:12           ` Julien Grall [this message]
2019-06-11 12:26             ` Andrii Anisov
2019-06-11 12:32               ` Julien Grall
2019-06-11 12:40                 ` Andrii Anisov
2019-06-13 12:21           ` Andrii Anisov
2019-06-13 12:39             ` Jan Beulich
2019-06-13 12:32         ` Andrii Anisov
2019-06-13 12:41           ` Jan Beulich
2019-06-13 12:48             ` Julien Grall
2019-06-13 12:58               ` Jan Beulich
2019-06-13 13:14                 ` Julien Grall
2019-06-13 13:40                   ` Jan Beulich
2019-06-13 14:41                     ` Julien Grall
2019-06-14 14:36                       ` Andrii Anisov
2019-06-14 14:39                         ` Julien Grall
2019-06-14 15:11                           ` Andrii Anisov
2019-06-14 15:24                             ` Julien Grall
2019-06-14 16:11                               ` Andrii Anisov
2019-06-14 16:20                                 ` Julien Grall
2019-06-14 16:25                                   ` Andrii Anisov
2019-06-17  6:27                                     ` Jan Beulich
2019-06-14 15:42                             ` Jan Beulich
2019-06-14 16:23                               ` Andrii Anisov
2019-06-17  6:28                                 ` Jan Beulich
2019-06-18 15:32                                   ` Andrii Anisov
2019-06-18 15:44                                     ` Jan Beulich
2019-06-11 16:09     ` Andrii Anisov
2019-06-12  7:27       ` Jan Beulich
2019-06-13 12:17         ` Andrii Anisov
2019-06-13 12:36           ` Jan Beulich
2019-06-11 16:13     ` Andrii Anisov
2019-05-24 18:12 ` [PATCH RFC 1] [DO NOT APPLY] " Andrii Anisov
2019-05-24 18:12   ` [Xen-devel] " Andrii Anisov
2019-05-28  8:59 ` [PATCH RFC 2] " Julien Grall
2019-05-28  8:59   ` [Xen-devel] " Julien Grall
2019-05-28  9:17   ` Andrii Anisov
2019-05-28  9:17     ` [Xen-devel] " Andrii Anisov
2019-05-28  9:23     ` Julien Grall
2019-05-28  9:23       ` [Xen-devel] " Julien Grall
2019-05-28  9:36       ` Andrii Anisov
2019-05-28  9:36         ` [Xen-devel] " Andrii Anisov

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