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From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>
Cc: Paul Durrant <Paul.Durrant@citrix.com>, Wei Liu <wl@xen.org>,
	RogerPau Monne <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH 1/6] x86emul: generalize wbinvd() hook
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 19:47:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fa1c12e7-8567-450f-d8a5-3d92beaa6cec@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fc5f0b03-2e69-8fa9-289f-50e8abb57210@citrix.com>

On 27/08/2019 11:44, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>> I was also uncertain about the new cache_flush_permitted() instance -
>> generally I think it wouldn't be too bad if we allowed line flushes in
>> all cases, in which case the checks in the ->wbinvd_intercept() handlers
>> would suffice (as they did until now).
> This is a more general issue which we need to address.  To support
> encrypted memory in VM's, we must guarantee that WC mappings which the
> guest creates are really WC, which means we must not use IPAT or play
> any "fall back to WB" games.
>
> Furthermore, AMD's encrypt-in-place algorithm requires the guest to be
> able to use WBINVD.

Based on some feedback, the encrypt-in-place algorithm is only for
native situations trying to use SME, where the loading kernel/hypervisor
needs to encrypt itself.

SEV guests run encrypted from the start, and have no need to
encrypt/decrypt in place.  The expected way is to copy between an
encrypted and non-encrypted buffer in separate GFNs.

The WBINVD is to ensure that dirty cache lines aren't corrupted by the
WP mapping, and CLFLUSH (or any equivalent full eviction) can be
substituted, but for the intended usecase, a single WBINVD is the
optimum strategy.

~Andrew

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-08-27 18:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-01 11:47 [Xen-devel] [PATCH 0/6] x86emul: further work Jan Beulich
2019-07-01 11:56 ` [Xen-devel] [PATCH 1/6] x86emul: generalize wbinvd() hook Jan Beulich
2019-07-02 10:22   ` Paul Durrant
2019-07-02 10:50     ` Jan Beulich
2019-07-02 10:53       ` Paul Durrant
2019-08-27 10:44   ` Andrew Cooper
2019-08-27 12:51     ` Andrew Cooper
2019-08-27 18:47     ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2019-09-02 11:10   ` [Xen-devel] Ping: " Jan Beulich
2019-09-02 12:04     ` Paul Durrant
2019-07-01 11:56 ` [Xen-devel] [PATCH 2/6] x86emul: support WBNOINVD Jan Beulich
2019-07-02 10:38   ` Paul Durrant
2019-08-27 14:47   ` Andrew Cooper
2019-08-27 15:08     ` Jan Beulich
2019-08-27 16:45       ` Andrew Cooper
2019-08-28 11:42         ` Andrew Cooper
2019-07-01 11:56 ` [Xen-devel] [PATCH 3/6] x86emul: generalize invlpg() hook Jan Beulich
2019-07-02 10:47   ` Paul Durrant
2019-08-27 14:55   ` Andrew Cooper
2019-07-01 11:57 ` [Xen-devel] [PATCH 4/6] x86: move INVPCID_TYPE_* to x86-defns.h Jan Beulich
2019-07-02 10:49   ` Paul Durrant
2019-08-27 14:57   ` Andrew Cooper
2019-07-01 11:57 ` [Xen-devel] [PATCH 5/6] x86emul: support INVPCID Jan Beulich
2019-07-02 12:54   ` Paul Durrant
2019-08-27 15:31   ` Andrew Cooper
2019-08-27 15:53     ` Jan Beulich
2019-08-27 17:27       ` Andrew Cooper
2019-08-28  7:14         ` Jan Beulich
2019-08-28 11:33           ` Andrew Cooper
2019-07-01 11:58 ` [Xen-devel] [PATCH 6/6] x86emul: support MOVDIR{I,64B} insns Jan Beulich
2019-08-27 16:04   ` Andrew Cooper
2019-08-28  6:26     ` Jan Beulich
2019-08-28 11:51       ` Andrew Cooper
2019-08-28 12:19         ` Jan Beulich
2019-08-15 14:24 ` [Xen-devel] [PATCH 0/6] x86emul: further work Andrew Cooper
2019-08-27  8:37   ` Jan Beulich

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