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From: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
To: "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>, Wei Liu <wl@xen.org>,
	Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org>,
	George Dunlap <george.dunlap@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/17] x86/PV: harden guest memory accesses against speculative abuse
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2021 12:28:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fd0e2d04-97ab-5096-71c3-a031c0b15589@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YCTmzRcZw9JUJkxw@Air-de-Roger>

On 11.02.2021 09:11, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 05:55:52PM +0100, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> On 09.02.2021 17:26, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 04:04:57PM +0100, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> --- a/xen/arch/x86/usercopy.c
>>>> +++ b/xen/arch/x86/usercopy.c
>>>> @@ -10,12 +10,19 @@
>>>>  #include <xen/sched.h>
>>>>  #include <asm/uaccess.h>
>>>>  
>>>> -unsigned __copy_to_user_ll(void __user *to, const void *from, unsigned n)
>>>> +#ifndef GUARD
>>>> +# define GUARD UA_KEEP
>>>> +#endif
>>>> +
>>>> +unsigned int copy_to_guest_ll(void __user *to, const void *from, unsigned int n)
>>>>  {
>>>>      unsigned dummy;
>>>>  
>>>>      stac();
>>>>      asm volatile (
>>>> +        GUARD(
>>>> +        "    guest_access_mask_ptr %[to], %q[scratch1], %q[scratch2]\n"
>>>
>>> Don't you need to also take 'n' into account here to assert that the
>>> address doesn't end in hypervisor address space? Or that's fine as
>>> speculation wouldn't go that far?
>>
>> Like elsewhere this leverages that the hypervisor VA range starts
>> immediately after the non-canonical hole. I'm unaware of
>> speculation being able to cross over that hole.
>>
>>> I also wonder why this needs to be done in assembly, could you check
>>> the address(es) using C?
>>
>> For this to be efficient (in avoiding speculation) the insn
>> sequence would better not have any conditional jumps. I don't
>> think the compiler can be told so.
> 
> Why not use evaluate_nospec to check the address like we do in other
> places?

Because LFENCE is far heavier than what we do here, which is
effectively a (distant) relative of array_index_nospec().

Jan


  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-11 11:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-14 15:01 [PATCH 00/17] x86/PV: avoid speculation abuse through guest accessors plus Jan Beulich
2021-01-14 15:03 ` [PATCH 01/17] x86/shadow: use __put_user() instead of __copy_to_user() Jan Beulich
2021-01-14 15:04 ` [PATCH 02/17] x86: split __{get,put}_user() into "guest" and "unsafe" variants Jan Beulich
2021-02-05 15:43   ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-02-05 16:13     ` Jan Beulich
2021-02-05 16:18       ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-02-05 16:26         ` Jan Beulich
2021-02-09 13:07           ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-02-09 13:15             ` Jan Beulich
2021-02-09 14:46               ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-02-09 14:57                 ` Jan Beulich
2021-02-09 15:23                   ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-02-09 14:55   ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-02-09 15:14     ` Jan Beulich
2021-02-09 15:27       ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-01-14 15:04 ` [PATCH 03/17] x86: split __copy_{from,to}_user() " Jan Beulich
2021-02-09 16:06   ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-02-09 17:03     ` Jan Beulich
2021-01-14 15:04 ` [PATCH 04/17] x86/PV: harden guest memory accesses against speculative abuse Jan Beulich
2021-02-09 16:26   ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-02-10 16:55     ` Jan Beulich
2021-02-11  8:11       ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-02-11 11:28         ` Jan Beulich [this message]
2021-02-12 10:41   ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-02-12 12:48     ` Jan Beulich
2021-02-12 13:02       ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-02-12 13:15         ` Jan Beulich
2021-01-14 15:05 ` [PATCH 05/17] x86: rename {get,put}_user() to {get,put}_guest() Jan Beulich
2021-01-14 15:05 ` [PATCH 06/17] x86/gdbsx: convert "user" to "guest" accesses Jan Beulich
2021-01-14 15:06 ` [PATCH 07/17] x86: rename copy_{from,to}_user() to copy_{from,to}_guest_pv() Jan Beulich
2021-01-14 15:07 ` [PATCH 08/17] x86: move stac()/clac() from {get,put}_unsafe_asm() Jan Beulich
2021-01-14 15:07 ` [PATCH 09/17] x86/PV: use get_unsafe() instead of copy_from_unsafe() Jan Beulich
2021-01-14 15:08 ` [PATCH 10/17] x86/shadow: " Jan Beulich
2021-01-14 15:08 ` [PATCH 11/17] x86/shadow: polish shadow_write_entries() Jan Beulich
2021-01-14 15:09 ` [PATCH 12/17] x86/shadow: move shadow_set_l<N>e() to their own source file Jan Beulich
2021-01-14 15:09 ` [PATCH 13/17] x86/shadow: don't open-code SHF_* shorthands Jan Beulich
2021-01-14 15:10 ` [PATCH 14/17] x86/shadow: SH_type_l2h_shadow is PV-only Jan Beulich
2021-01-14 15:10 ` [PATCH 15/17] x86/shadow: drop SH_type_l2h_pae_shadow Jan Beulich
2021-01-22 13:11   ` Tim Deegan
2021-01-22 16:31     ` Jan Beulich
2021-01-22 20:02       ` Tim Deegan
2021-01-25 11:09         ` Jan Beulich
2021-01-25 11:33         ` Jan Beulich
2021-01-14 15:10 ` [PATCH 16/17] x86/shadow: only 4-level guest code needs building when !HVM Jan Beulich
2021-01-14 15:11 ` [PATCH 17/17] x86/shadow: adjust is_pv_*() checks Jan Beulich
2021-01-22 13:18 ` [PATCH 00/17] x86/PV: avoid speculation abuse through guest accessors plus Tim Deegan

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