Re: Virtual Inclusion Summit

From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>
Cc: Emily Shaffer <emilyshaffer@google.com>,
	Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
	"brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>,
	Simon Pieters <simon@bocoup.com>,
	Don Goodman-Wilson <don@goodman-wilson.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Virtual Inclusion Summit
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2020 08:25:30 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqh7vhbp5h.fsf@gitster.c.googlers.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200611023503.GA24130@syl.local> (Taylor Blau's message of "Wed, 10 Jun 2020 20:35:03 -0600")

Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com> writes:

> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 07:13:58PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>> Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com> writes:
>>
>> >> It is OK to have an optional meeting in the hope that a video
>> >> meeting may have a better chance to keep those who easily become too
>> >> aggressive and confrontational in text-only conversation in check
>> >> and instead have civilized conversation.
>> ...
>> What I am hesitant to see is that such an opt-in meeting becomes
>> "you got a chance to attend and have your voice heard---if you
>> didn't come, that was your choice, and whatever objection you give
>> after it does not count" summit.
>
> Ah, thanks for your clarification (and sorry for the misunderstanding).
> I figure that any synchronous discussion should augment the on-list
> discussion, not replace it.

By the way, if I sounded like I consider this "virtual summit" to be
no more than just a place for people with heated head to deflate
before having a civilized conversation, that was not my intention.

I do agree that it is good to have some gathering (or perhaps a
couple of them in shifting time to accomodate people from different
parts of the world) to help make sure everybody is moving towards
the same goal, and I have nothing against a virtual/video meeting
for that purpose.

Other than that it may be held on Zoom, where I do not particularly
like to send people to, after seeing articles like [*1*], that is,
but there may not be a viable alternative.  I dunno.

[Reference]

*1* https://www.ft.com/content/f24bc9c6-ed95-4b31-a011-9e3fcd9cf006