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From: Bryan Evenson <bevenson@melinkcorp.com>
To: "enrico.scholz@sigma-chemnitz.de"
	<enrico.scholz@sigma-chemnitz.de>,
	Alexander Kanavin <alex.kanavin@gmail.com>
Cc: Jon Mason <jdmason@kudzu.us>,
	Yocto-mailing-list <yocto@lists.yoctoproject.org>,
	Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer
	<openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org>,
	OpenEmbedded Devel List
	<openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org>
Subject: RE: [oe] [OE-core] Inclusive Language Proposal for YP/OE
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2022 15:01:14 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CH0PR20MB3948522D8A65FE1CED08EA37BB299@CH0PR20MB3948.namprd20.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <lyee4ik98t.fsf@ensc-virt.intern.sigma-chemnitz.de>

Enrico,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org <openembedded-
> core@lists.openembedded.org> On Behalf Of Enrico Scholz via
> lists.openembedded.org
> Sent: Friday, February 4, 2022 9:16 AM
> To: Alexander Kanavin <alex.kanavin@gmail.com>
> Cc: Jon Mason <jdmason@kudzu.us>; Yocto-mailing-list
> <yocto@lists.yoctoproject.org>; Patches and discussions about the oe-core
> layer <openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org>; OpenEmbedded
> Devel List <openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org>
> Subject: Re: [oe] [OE-core] Inclusive Language Proposal for YP/OE
> 
> Alexander Kanavin <alex.kanavin@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> >> > For BB_DISKMON_DIRS, the actions "ABORT, STOPTASKS and WARN"
> would
> >> > become "HALT, NO_NEW_TASKS and "WARN".
> >>
> >> I am not an native english speaker, but for "HALT" I will have to
> >> think twice whether it will pause the operation or abort it.  I would
> >> stay at "ABORT" because it makes much more clear what happens.
> >
> > I'm not taking a stand here, but just providing the context for where
> > the push for avoidance of 'abort' comes from:
> > https://inclusivenaming.org/word-lists/tier-1/
> >
> > Keep in mind that for non-native english speakers none of these words
> > are emotionally charged; they're just terms.
> 
> Yes; these are terms.  But it should be possible to understand the meaning of
> these terms without using a special "inclusivenaming"
> dictionary.  Else, we could just use "A", "B" and "C" for the actions above and
> explain these "terms" in some documentation later.
> 

Would CANCEL be clearer to you than HALT?

> 
> >> > BB_HASHCONFIG_WHITELIST -> BB_HASHCONFIG_IGNORE_VARS
> >> > BB_SETSCENE_ENFORCE_WHITELIST ->
> BB_SETSCENE_ENFORCE_IGNORE_TASKS
> >> > BB_HASHBASE_WHITELIST -> BB_BASEHASH_IGNORE_VARS
> >> > MULTI_PROVIDER_WHITELIST -> BB_MULTI_PROVIDER_ALLOWED
> >>
> >> The new variable names sound like boolean flags, not like lists.
> >
> > I'd say the context should make it clear that they are lists
> 
> It is bad when a context is required to understand the meaning of a variable.
> 
> And where do you see a context when local.conf contains
> 
> | BB_HASHCONFIG_IGNORE_VARS = "true"

Would BB_HASHCONFIG_IGNORELIST or BB_HASHCONFIG_ALLOWEDLIST make more sense to you?

Bryan
> 
> 
> 
> Enrico


  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-04 15:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-24 16:17 Inclusive Language Proposal for YP/OE Jon Mason
2022-01-25  8:26 ` Paul Barker
2022-01-26  1:51   ` [yocto] " Paul Eggleton
2022-01-25 15:50 ` [OE-core] " Chuck Wolber
2022-01-25 16:00   ` [oe] " Ross Burton
2022-01-25 16:30 ` [oe] " Ross Burton
2022-01-26  8:37   ` Mikko.Rapeli
2022-01-25 23:07 ` [OE-core] " Randy MacLeod
2022-01-29  3:30 ` [oe] " Peter Kjellerstedt
2022-02-04 13:21 ` [OE-core] " Enrico Scholz
2022-02-04 13:58   ` [oe] " Alexander Kanavin
2022-02-04 14:16     ` Enrico Scholz
2022-02-04 15:01       ` Bryan Evenson [this message]
2022-02-04 18:38         ` Enrico Scholz
2022-02-04 19:12           ` Alexander Kanavin
2022-02-04 20:08             ` Enrico Scholz
2022-02-21  8:21 ` [oe] " Marta Rybczynska

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