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From: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
To: Boaz Harrosh <boaz@plexistor.com>
Cc: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>, Jens Axboe <axboe@fb.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	calvinowens@fb.com, hch@lst.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/11] Update version of write stream ID patchset
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 10:34:29 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yq1r3fm1euy.fsf@sermon.lab.mkp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56DC55E4.8070205@plexistor.com> (Boaz Harrosh's message of "Sun, 06 Mar 2016 18:08:04 +0200")

>>>>> "Boaz" == Boaz Harrosh <boaz@plexistor.com> writes:

Boaz> Does it make any sense to you? I mean with multy-queue with HW
Boaz> channels for every CPU, parallel IO, and poling because even
Boaz> interrupts are too slow, you want me to cram everything and
Boaz> serialize it on 4 open/close streams?

Boaz> Either I'm completely missing something. Or please please explain
Boaz> what is going on. How does 4 stream make any sense in today's NvME
Boaz> HW? How does open/close anything make any sense?

For number of streams you should think hardware flash channels.

Boaz> On the surface it looks like someone is smoking something really
Boaz> bad.

No, the hardware folks have good reasons why they want things to work a
certain way.

I am mostly objecting to the fact that the model of the current streams
proposal is heavily biased towards a fairly narrow use case and closely
tied to how current generations of flash controllers are implemented.

I would like to see a bit more abstraction put into the model so it is
less "controller with N flash-channels and anemic ARM core"
centric. That obviously means more complexity in the controller design,
hence the pushback from the vendors. However, I think it'll be worth it
in the long run.

-- 
Martin K. Petersen	Oracle Linux Engineering

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-03-07 15:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-04 16:10 [PATCH 0/11] Update version of write stream ID patchset Jens Axboe
2016-03-04 16:10 ` [PATCH 01/11] idr: make ida_simple_remove() return an error Jens Axboe
2016-03-04 16:10 ` [PATCH 02/11] block: add support for carrying a stream ID in a bio Jens Axboe
2016-03-04 16:10 ` [PATCH 03/11] Add support for per-file/inode stream ID Jens Axboe
     [not found]   ` <CAJVOszBXU-qQENcOGG8pWeARwoWL2G3gNJ0H2uNPjXkiVa8S+Q@mail.gmail.com>
2016-03-04 20:35     ` Jens Axboe
2016-03-04 16:10 ` [PATCH 04/11] Add system call for setting inode/file write " Jens Axboe
2016-03-04 16:10 ` [PATCH 05/11] wire up system call for x86/x86-64 Jens Axboe
2016-03-04 16:10 ` [PATCH 06/11] Add support for bdi tracking of stream ID Jens Axboe
2016-03-04 16:10 ` [PATCH 07/11] direct-io: add support for write stream IDs Jens Axboe
2016-03-04 16:10 ` [PATCH 08/11] Add stream ID support for buffered mpage/__block_write_full_page() Jens Axboe
2016-03-04 16:10 ` [PATCH 09/11] btrfs: add support for write stream IDs Jens Axboe
2016-03-04 20:44   ` Chris Mason
2016-03-04 20:45     ` Jens Axboe
2016-03-04 16:10 ` [PATCH 10/11] xfs: add support for buffered writeback stream ID Jens Axboe
2016-03-04 16:10 ` [PATCH 11/11] ext4: add support for write stream IDs Jens Axboe
2016-03-04 19:42 ` [PATCH 0/11] Update version of write stream ID patchset Jeff Moyer
2016-03-04 20:34   ` Jens Axboe
2016-03-04 21:01     ` Jeff Moyer
2016-03-04 21:06       ` Jens Axboe
2016-03-04 22:03         ` Jeff Moyer
2016-03-04 22:13           ` Jens Axboe
2016-03-05 20:48         ` Martin K. Petersen
2016-03-08 21:56           ` Jens Axboe
2016-03-17 23:43             ` Dan Williams
2016-03-18  0:18               ` Jens Axboe
2016-03-18  2:39                 ` Martin K. Petersen
2016-03-18 17:37                   ` Jens Axboe
2016-03-18 17:56                     ` Dan Williams
2016-03-06  6:13 ` Andreas Dilger
2016-03-06 13:03   ` Martin K. Petersen
2016-03-06 16:08     ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-03-06 20:51       ` Shaun Tancheff
2016-03-07 15:41         ` Martin K. Petersen
2016-03-07 15:34       ` Martin K. Petersen [this message]
2016-03-06 22:42     ` Andreas Dilger
2016-03-07 15:52       ` Martin K. Petersen

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