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From: Nick Kossifidis <mick@ics.forth.gr>
To: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>
Cc: robh+dt@kernel.org, mick@ics.forth.gr, geert@linux-m68k.org,
	Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	aou@eecs.berkeley.edu, frowand.list@gmail.com,
	catalin.marinas@arm.com, will@kernel.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] riscv: Remove non-standard linux,elfcorehdr handling
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2021 18:56:55 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <008ddfd79d256dcddd7c802e4eef6b5a@mailhost.ics.forth.gr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mhng-6db38728-4f82-45bd-9b17-c41da55c41e9@palmerdabbelt-glaptop>

Στις 2021-07-01 05:52, Palmer Dabbelt έγραψε:
> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 07:47:46 PDT (-0700), robh+dt@kernel.org wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 4:43 AM Nick Kossifidis <mick@ics.forth.gr> 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Στις 2021-06-16 10:56, Geert Uytterhoeven έγραψε:
>>> >
>>> > I can't comment on the duplication on arm64, but to me, /chosen
>>> > sounds like the natural place for both "linux,elfcorehdr" and
>>> > "linux,usable-memory-range".  First rule of DT is "DT describes
>>> > hardware, not software policy", with /chosen describing some software
>>> > configuration.
>>> >
>>> 
>>> We already have "linux,usable-memory" on /memory node:
>>> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v5.13-rc6/source/drivers/of/fdt.c#L1011
>>> and it makes perfect sense to be there since it overrides /memory's 
>>> reg
>>> property.
>>> 
>>> Why define another binding for the same thing on /chosen ?
>> 
>> Go look at the thread adding "linux,usable-memory-range". There were
>> only 35 versions of it[1]. I wasn't happy with a 2nd way either, but
>> as I've mentioned before we don't always have /memory node.
> 
> I don't really understand what's going on here, but IIUC what I merged
> in 5.13 doesn't match the behavior that other architectures have.  In
> that case I'm happy moving RISC-V over to the more standard way of
> doing things and just calling what we have in 5.13 a screwup.
> 
> Sorry for the confusion.

Long story short:

a) We use "linux,usable-memory" on /memory node to limit the memory of 
the kdump kernel, it's a standard binding defined at:
https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v5.13-rc6/source/drivers/of/fdt.c#L1011

b) We used a reserved region (again a standard binding) named 
"linux,elfcorehdr" which has the same name as a property on /chosen used 
by arm64 for the same thing. With this patch we 'll use arm64's 
approach, although it's a bit worse since we'll need to add the same 
region twice on the fdt (once in /chosen as a property and another one 
in the reservation map so that it gets reserved during early boot).

Fortunately I (still) haven't posted the kexec-tools patches on the 
mailing list so we don't break userspace by doing this.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Nick Kossifidis <mick@ics.forth.gr>
To: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>
Cc: robh+dt@kernel.org, mick@ics.forth.gr, geert@linux-m68k.org,
	Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	aou@eecs.berkeley.edu, frowand.list@gmail.com,
	catalin.marinas@arm.com, will@kernel.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] riscv: Remove non-standard linux,elfcorehdr handling
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2021 18:56:55 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <008ddfd79d256dcddd7c802e4eef6b5a@mailhost.ics.forth.gr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mhng-6db38728-4f82-45bd-9b17-c41da55c41e9@palmerdabbelt-glaptop>

Στις 2021-07-01 05:52, Palmer Dabbelt έγραψε:
> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 07:47:46 PDT (-0700), robh+dt@kernel.org wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 4:43 AM Nick Kossifidis <mick@ics.forth.gr> 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Στις 2021-06-16 10:56, Geert Uytterhoeven έγραψε:
>>> >
>>> > I can't comment on the duplication on arm64, but to me, /chosen
>>> > sounds like the natural place for both "linux,elfcorehdr" and
>>> > "linux,usable-memory-range".  First rule of DT is "DT describes
>>> > hardware, not software policy", with /chosen describing some software
>>> > configuration.
>>> >
>>> 
>>> We already have "linux,usable-memory" on /memory node:
>>> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v5.13-rc6/source/drivers/of/fdt.c#L1011
>>> and it makes perfect sense to be there since it overrides /memory's 
>>> reg
>>> property.
>>> 
>>> Why define another binding for the same thing on /chosen ?
>> 
>> Go look at the thread adding "linux,usable-memory-range". There were
>> only 35 versions of it[1]. I wasn't happy with a 2nd way either, but
>> as I've mentioned before we don't always have /memory node.
> 
> I don't really understand what's going on here, but IIUC what I merged
> in 5.13 doesn't match the behavior that other architectures have.  In
> that case I'm happy moving RISC-V over to the more standard way of
> doing things and just calling what we have in 5.13 a screwup.
> 
> Sorry for the confusion.

Long story short:

a) We use "linux,usable-memory" on /memory node to limit the memory of 
the kdump kernel, it's a standard binding defined at:
https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v5.13-rc6/source/drivers/of/fdt.c#L1011

b) We used a reserved region (again a standard binding) named 
"linux,elfcorehdr" which has the same name as a property on /chosen used 
by arm64 for the same thing. With this patch we 'll use arm64's 
approach, although it's a bit worse since we'll need to add the same 
region twice on the fdt (once in /chosen as a property and another one 
in the reservation map so that it gets reserved during early boot).

Fortunately I (still) haven't posted the kexec-tools patches on the 
mailing list so we don't break userspace by doing this.

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From: Nick Kossifidis <mick@ics.forth.gr>
To: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>
Cc: robh+dt@kernel.org, mick@ics.forth.gr, geert@linux-m68k.org,
	Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	aou@eecs.berkeley.edu, frowand.list@gmail.com,
	catalin.marinas@arm.com, will@kernel.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] riscv: Remove non-standard linux,elfcorehdr handling
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2021 18:56:55 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <008ddfd79d256dcddd7c802e4eef6b5a@mailhost.ics.forth.gr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mhng-6db38728-4f82-45bd-9b17-c41da55c41e9@palmerdabbelt-glaptop>

Στις 2021-07-01 05:52, Palmer Dabbelt έγραψε:
> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 07:47:46 PDT (-0700), robh+dt@kernel.org wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 4:43 AM Nick Kossifidis <mick@ics.forth.gr> 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Στις 2021-06-16 10:56, Geert Uytterhoeven έγραψε:
>>> >
>>> > I can't comment on the duplication on arm64, but to me, /chosen
>>> > sounds like the natural place for both "linux,elfcorehdr" and
>>> > "linux,usable-memory-range".  First rule of DT is "DT describes
>>> > hardware, not software policy", with /chosen describing some software
>>> > configuration.
>>> >
>>> 
>>> We already have "linux,usable-memory" on /memory node:
>>> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v5.13-rc6/source/drivers/of/fdt.c#L1011
>>> and it makes perfect sense to be there since it overrides /memory's 
>>> reg
>>> property.
>>> 
>>> Why define another binding for the same thing on /chosen ?
>> 
>> Go look at the thread adding "linux,usable-memory-range". There were
>> only 35 versions of it[1]. I wasn't happy with a 2nd way either, but
>> as I've mentioned before we don't always have /memory node.
> 
> I don't really understand what's going on here, but IIUC what I merged
> in 5.13 doesn't match the behavior that other architectures have.  In
> that case I'm happy moving RISC-V over to the more standard way of
> doing things and just calling what we have in 5.13 a screwup.
> 
> Sorry for the confusion.

Long story short:

a) We use "linux,usable-memory" on /memory node to limit the memory of 
the kdump kernel, it's a standard binding defined at:
https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v5.13-rc6/source/drivers/of/fdt.c#L1011

b) We used a reserved region (again a standard binding) named 
"linux,elfcorehdr" which has the same name as a property on /chosen used 
by arm64 for the same thing. With this patch we 'll use arm64's 
approach, although it's a bit worse since we'll need to add the same 
region twice on the fdt (once in /chosen as a property and another one 
in the reservation map so that it gets reserved during early boot).

Fortunately I (still) haven't posted the kexec-tools patches on the 
mailing list so we don't break userspace by doing this.

_______________________________________________
linux-arm-kernel mailing list
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel

  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-02 15:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-15 18:17 [PATCH 0/3] Add generic-support for linux,elfcorehdr and fix riscv Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-06-15 18:17 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-06-15 18:17 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-06-15 18:17 ` [PATCH 1/3] of: fdt: Add generic support for parsing elf core header properties Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-06-15 18:17   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-06-15 18:17   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-06-15 19:54   ` Rob Herring
2021-06-15 19:54     ` Rob Herring
2021-06-15 19:54     ` Rob Herring
2021-06-15 23:28   ` Nick Kossifidis
2021-06-15 23:28     ` Nick Kossifidis
2021-06-15 23:28     ` Nick Kossifidis
2021-06-16  7:58     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-06-16  7:58       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-06-16  7:58       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-06-15 18:17 ` [PATCH 2/3] riscv: Remove non-standard linux,elfcorehdr handling Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-06-15 18:17   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-06-15 18:17   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-06-15 18:40   ` Nick Kossifidis
2021-06-15 18:40     ` Nick Kossifidis
2021-06-15 18:40     ` Nick Kossifidis
2021-06-15 19:54     ` Rob Herring
2021-06-15 19:54       ` Rob Herring
2021-06-15 19:54       ` Rob Herring
2021-06-15 23:19       ` Nick Kossifidis
2021-06-15 23:19         ` Nick Kossifidis
2021-06-15 23:19         ` Nick Kossifidis
2021-06-16  7:56         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-06-16  7:56           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-06-16  7:56           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-06-16 10:43           ` Nick Kossifidis
2021-06-16 10:43             ` Nick Kossifidis
2021-06-16 10:43             ` Nick Kossifidis
2021-06-16 14:47             ` Rob Herring
2021-06-16 14:47               ` Rob Herring
2021-06-16 14:47               ` Rob Herring
2021-07-01  2:52               ` Palmer Dabbelt
2021-07-01  2:52                 ` Palmer Dabbelt
2021-07-01  2:52                 ` Palmer Dabbelt
2021-07-02 15:56                 ` Nick Kossifidis [this message]
2021-07-02 15:56                   ` Nick Kossifidis
2021-07-02 15:56                   ` Nick Kossifidis
2021-06-15 18:17 ` [PATCH 3/3] arm64: kdump: Remove custom linux,elfcorehdr parsing Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-06-15 18:17   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-06-15 18:17   ` Geert Uytterhoeven

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