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From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	David Gibson <dwg@au1.ibm.com>, Paul Mackerras <pmac@au1.ibm.com>,
	Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@au1.ibm.com>,
	"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: kvm PCI assignment & VFIO ramblings
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 14:27:36 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1312230476.2653.395.camel@bling.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E356221.6010302@redhat.com>

On Sun, 2011-07-31 at 17:09 +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 07/30/2011 02:58 AM, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > Due to our paravirt nature, we don't need to masquerade the MSI-X table
> > for example. At all. If the guest configures crap into it, too bad, it
> > can only shoot itself in the foot since the host bridge enforce
> > validation anyways as I explained earlier. Because it's all paravirt, we
> > don't need to "translate" the interrupt vectors&  addresses, the guest
> > will call hyercalls to configure things anyways.
> 
> So, you have interrupt redirection?  That is, MSI-x table values encode 
> the vcpu, not pcpu?
> 
> Alex, with interrupt redirection, we can skip this as well?  Perhaps 
> only if the guest enables interrupt redirection?

It's not clear to me how we could skip it.  With VT-d, we'd have to
implement an emulated interrupt remapper and hope that the guest picks
unused indexes in the host interrupt remapping table before it could do
anything useful with direct access to the MSI-X table.  Maybe AMD IOMMU
makes this easier?  Thanks,

Alex

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@au1.ibm.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Paul Mackerras <pmac@au1.ibm.com>,
	David Gibson <dwg@au1.ibm.com>,
	Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: kvm PCI assignment & VFIO ramblings
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 14:27:36 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1312230476.2653.395.camel@bling.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E356221.6010302@redhat.com>

On Sun, 2011-07-31 at 17:09 +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 07/30/2011 02:58 AM, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > Due to our paravirt nature, we don't need to masquerade the MSI-X table
> > for example. At all. If the guest configures crap into it, too bad, it
> > can only shoot itself in the foot since the host bridge enforce
> > validation anyways as I explained earlier. Because it's all paravirt, we
> > don't need to "translate" the interrupt vectors&  addresses, the guest
> > will call hyercalls to configure things anyways.
> 
> So, you have interrupt redirection?  That is, MSI-x table values encode 
> the vcpu, not pcpu?
> 
> Alex, with interrupt redirection, we can skip this as well?  Perhaps 
> only if the guest enables interrupt redirection?

It's not clear to me how we could skip it.  With VT-d, we'd have to
implement an emulated interrupt remapper and hope that the guest picks
unused indexes in the host interrupt remapping table before it could do
anything useful with direct access to the MSI-X table.  Maybe AMD IOMMU
makes this easier?  Thanks,

Alex

  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-01 20:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 322+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-29 23:58 kvm PCI assignment & VFIO ramblings Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-29 23:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-30 18:20 ` Alex Williamson
2011-07-30 18:20   ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-07-30 18:20   ` Alex Williamson
2011-07-30 23:54   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-30 23:54     ` [Qemu-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-30 23:54     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-01 18:59     ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-01 18:59       ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-08-01 18:59       ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-02  2:00       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-02  2:00         ` [Qemu-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-02  2:00         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-30 23:55   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-30 23:55     ` [Qemu-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-30 23:55     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-02  8:28   ` David Gibson
2011-08-02  8:28     ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2011-08-02  8:28     ` David Gibson
2011-08-02 18:14     ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-02 18:14       ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-08-02 18:14       ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-02 18:35       ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-02 18:35         ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-08-02 18:35         ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-03  2:04         ` David Gibson
2011-08-03  2:04           ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2011-08-03  2:04           ` David Gibson
2011-08-03  3:44           ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-03  3:44             ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-08-03  3:44             ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-04  0:39             ` David Gibson
2011-08-04  0:39               ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2011-08-08  8:28           ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-08  8:28             ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-08-08  8:28             ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-09 23:24             ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-09 23:24               ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-08-09 23:24               ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-10  2:48               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-10  2:48                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-10  2:48                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-20 16:51                 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-20 16:51                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-08-20 16:51                   ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-22  5:55                   ` David Gibson
2011-08-22  5:55                     ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2011-08-22  5:55                     ` David Gibson
2011-08-22 15:45                     ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-22 15:45                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-08-22 21:01                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-22 21:01                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-22 21:01                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-23 19:30                         ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 19:30                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 19:30                           ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 23:51                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-23 23:51                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-23 23:51                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-24  3:40                             ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-24  3:40                               ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-08-24  3:40                               ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-24 14:47                             ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-24 14:47                               ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-08-24 14:47                               ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-24  8:43                           ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-24  8:43                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Joerg Roedel
2011-08-24  8:43                             ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-24 14:56                             ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-24 14:56                               ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-08-24 14:56                               ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-25 11:01                               ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-25 11:01                                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-25 11:01                                 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-23  2:38                       ` David Gibson
2011-08-23  2:38                         ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2011-08-23  2:38                         ` David Gibson
2011-08-23 16:23                         ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 16:23                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 16:23                           ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 23:41                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-23 23:41                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-23 23:41                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-24  3:36                             ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-24  3:36                               ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-08-24  3:36                               ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-22  6:30                   ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-22  6:30                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-08-22  6:30                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 10:46                     ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-22 10:46                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Joerg Roedel
2011-08-22 10:46                       ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-22 10:51                       ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 10:51                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 10:51                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 12:36                         ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 12:36                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 12:36                           ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 12:42                           ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 12:42                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 12:42                             ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 12:55                             ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 12:55                               ` [Qemu-devel] " Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 12:55                               ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 13:06                               ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 13:06                                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 13:06                                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 13:15                                 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 13:15                                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 13:15                                   ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 13:17                                   ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 13:17                                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 13:17                                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 14:37                                     ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 14:37                                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 14:37                                       ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 20:53                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-22 20:53                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-22 20:53                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-22 17:25                   ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-22 17:25                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Joerg Roedel
2011-08-22 17:25                     ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-22 19:17                     ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-22 19:17                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-08-22 19:17                       ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 13:14                       ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-23 13:14                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-23 13:14                         ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-23 17:08                         ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 17:08                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 17:08                           ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-24  8:52                           ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-24  8:52                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-24  8:52                             ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-24 15:07                             ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-24 15:07                               ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-08-24 15:07                               ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-25 12:31                               ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-25 12:31                                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-25 12:31                                 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-25 13:25                                 ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-25 13:25                                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-08-25 13:25                                   ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-26  4:24                                   ` David Gibson
2011-08-26  4:24                                     ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2011-08-26  4:24                                     ` David Gibson
2011-08-26  9:24                                     ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-26  9:24                                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-26  9:24                                       ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-28 13:14                                       ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-28 13:14                                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-08-28 13:14                                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-28 13:56                                         ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-28 13:56                                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Joerg Roedel
2011-08-28 13:56                                           ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-28 14:04                                           ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-28 14:04                                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-08-28 14:04                                             ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-30 16:14                                             ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-30 16:14                                               ` [Qemu-devel] " Joerg Roedel
2011-08-30 16:14                                               ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-22 21:03                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-22 21:03                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-22 21:03                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-23 13:18                       ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-23 13:18                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-23 13:18                         ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-23 23:35                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-23 23:35                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-23 23:35                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-24  8:53                           ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-24  8:53                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-24  8:53                             ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 20:29                   ` aafabbri
2011-08-22 20:29                     ` [Qemu-devel] " aafabbri
2011-08-22 20:29                     ` aafabbri
2011-08-22 20:49                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-22 20:49                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-22 21:38                       ` aafabbri
2011-08-22 21:38                         ` [Qemu-devel] " aafabbri
2011-08-22 21:38                         ` aafabbri
2011-08-22 21:49                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-22 21:49                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-22 21:49                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-23  0:52                           ` aafabbri
2011-08-23  0:52                             ` [Qemu-devel] " aafabbri
2011-08-23  0:52                             ` aafabbri
2011-08-23  6:54                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-23  6:54                               ` [Qemu-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-23  6:54                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-23 11:09                               ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-23 11:09                                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Joerg Roedel
2011-08-23 11:09                                 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-23 17:01                               ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 17:01                                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 17:01                                 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 17:33                                 ` Aaron Fabbri
2011-08-23 17:33                                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Aaron Fabbri
2011-08-23 17:33                                   ` Aaron Fabbri
2011-08-23 18:01                                   ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 18:01                                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 18:01                                     ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-24  9:10                                   ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-24  9:10                                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Joerg Roedel
2011-08-24  9:10                                     ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-24 21:13                                     ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-24 21:13                                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-08-24 21:13                                       ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-25 10:54                                       ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-25 10:54                                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-25 10:54                                         ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-25 15:38                                         ` Don Dutile
2011-08-25 15:38                                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Don Dutile
2011-08-25 15:38                                           ` Don Dutile
2011-08-25 16:46                                           ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-25 16:46                                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-25 16:46                                             ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-25 17:20                                         ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-25 17:20                                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-08-25 17:20                                           ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-25 18:05                                           ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-25 18:05                                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Joerg Roedel
2011-08-25 18:05                                             ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-26 18:04                                             ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-26 18:04                                               ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2011-08-26 18:04                                               ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-30 16:13                                               ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-30 16:13                                                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Joerg Roedel
2011-08-30 16:13                                                 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-23 11:04                             ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-23 11:04                               ` [Qemu-devel] " Joerg Roedel
2011-08-23 11:04                               ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-23 16:54                               ` aafabbri
2011-08-23 16:54                                 ` [Qemu-devel] " aafabbri
2011-08-23 16:54                                 ` aafabbri
2011-08-24  9:14                                 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-24  9:14                                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-24  9:14                                   ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-24  9:33                                   ` David Gibson
2011-08-24  9:33                                     ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2011-08-24  9:33                                     ` David Gibson
2011-08-24 11:03                                     ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-24 11:03                                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-24 11:03                                       ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-26  4:20                                       ` David Gibson
2011-08-26  4:20                                         ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2011-08-26  4:20                                         ` David Gibson
2011-08-26  9:33                                         ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-26  9:33                                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-26  9:33                                           ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-26 14:07                                           ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-26 14:07                                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-08-26 14:07                                             ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-26 15:24                                             ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-26 15:24                                               ` [Qemu-devel] " Joerg Roedel
2011-08-26 15:24                                               ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-26 15:29                                               ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-26 15:29                                                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-08-26 15:29                                                 ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-26 17:52                                             ` Aaron Fabbri
2011-08-26 17:52                                               ` [Qemu-devel] " Aaron Fabbri
2011-08-26 19:35                                               ` Chris Wright
2011-08-26 19:35                                                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Chris Wright
2011-08-26 19:35                                                 ` Chris Wright
2011-08-26 20:17                                                 ` Aaron Fabbri
2011-08-26 20:17                                                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Aaron Fabbri
2011-08-26 20:17                                                   ` Aaron Fabbri
2011-08-26 21:06                                                   ` Chris Wright
2011-08-26 21:06                                                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Chris Wright
2011-08-26 21:06                                                     ` Chris Wright
2011-08-30  1:29                                                   ` David Gibson
2011-08-30  1:29                                                     ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2011-08-30  1:29                                                     ` David Gibson
2011-08-04 10:35   ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-04 10:35     ` [Qemu-devel] " Joerg Roedel
2011-08-04 10:35     ` Joerg Roedel
2011-07-30 22:21 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-30 22:21   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-01 16:40   ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-01 16:40     ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-02  1:29     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-31 14:09 ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-31 14:09   ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-01 20:27   ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2011-08-01 20:27     ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-02  8:32     ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-02  8:32       ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-04 10:41     ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-04 10:41       ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-05 10:26       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-05 10:26         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-05 12:57         ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-05 12:57           ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-02  1:27   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-02  1:27     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-02  9:12     ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-02  9:12       ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-02 12:58       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-02 12:58         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-02 13:39         ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-02 13:39           ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-02 15:34         ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-02 15:34           ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-02 21:29           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2011-08-02 21:29             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2011-08-03  1:02             ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-03  1:02               ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-02 14:39     ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-02 14:39       ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-01  2:48 ` David Gibson
2011-08-04 10:27 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-04 10:27   ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-05 10:42   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-05 10:42     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-05 13:44     ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-05 13:44       ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-05 22:49       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-05 22:49         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-05 15:10     ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-05 15:10       ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-08  6:07       ` David Gibson

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