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* [PATCH v2] watchdog: gpio: Add "keep-armed-on-close" feature
@ 2017-03-14 14:11 Sylvain Lemieux
  2017-03-28 17:25 ` Sylvain Lemieux
  2017-03-30 13:11 ` Guenter Roeck
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Sylvain Lemieux @ 2017-03-14 14:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux, wim; +Cc: linux-watchdog

From: Sylvain Lemieux <slemieux@tycoint.com>

There is a need to allow a grace period after the watchdog software
client has closed. It could be used for syncing the filesystem or
allow graceful termination while still providing a hardware reset
in case the system has hung.

The "always-running" configuration from device-tree does not provide
this since it will automatically keep the hardware watchdog alive as
soon as the software client closes (i.e. keep toggling the GPIO line
regardless of the state of the soft part of the watchdog).

The "keep-armed-on-close" member in the GPIO watchdog implementation
indicates if an expired timeout should cause a reset.

This patch add a new "keep-armed-on-close" device-tree configuration
that will keep the watchdog "armed" until the next timeout period after
a close. During this period, the hardware watchdog is kept alive.
A software watchdog client that wants to provide a grace period before
a hard reset can set the timeout before properly closing.

Signed-off-by: Sylvain Lemieux <slemieux@tycoint.com>
---
* This patch depend on the:
  "watchdog: gpio: Convert to use infrastructure triggered keepalives";
  ref. https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/2/28/239 (version 8)

Changes from v1 to v2:
* Rebased on-top of the "watchdog: gpio: keepalives" patch.
  - Updated the management of the "WDOG_HW_RUNNING" flag.
* Tested with v4.11-rc1.

 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/watchdog/gpio-wdt.txt |  3 +++
 drivers/watchdog/gpio_wdt.c                             | 10 ++++++++++
 2 files changed, 13 insertions(+)

diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/watchdog/gpio-wdt.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/watchdog/gpio-wdt.txt
index 83d28146e39b..48db076771b2 100644
--- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/watchdog/gpio-wdt.txt
+++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/watchdog/gpio-wdt.txt
@@ -17,6 +17,9 @@ Optional Properties:
 - always-running: If the watchdog timer cannot be disabled, add this flag to
   have the driver keep toggling the signal without a client. It will only cease
   to toggle the signal when the device is open and the timeout elapsed.
+- keep-armed-on-close: if the watchdog timer need to keep toggling the signal
+  when close, until the timeout elapsed, add this flag to have the driver
+  keep toggling the signal, until the timeout elapsed.
 - timeout-sec: Contains the watchdog timeout in seconds.
 - start-at-init: Start kicking watchdog as soon as driver is loaded.
 
diff --git a/drivers/watchdog/gpio_wdt.c b/drivers/watchdog/gpio_wdt.c
index 7b46d224cb56..2f4799bee9bd 100644
--- a/drivers/watchdog/gpio_wdt.c
+++ b/drivers/watchdog/gpio_wdt.c
@@ -29,6 +29,7 @@ struct gpio_wdt_priv {
 	bool			active_low;
 	bool			state;
 	bool			always_running;
+	bool			keep_armed_on_close;
 	unsigned int		hw_algo;
 	struct watchdog_device	wdd;
 };
@@ -78,6 +79,13 @@ static int gpio_wdt_stop(struct watchdog_device *wdd)
 {
 	struct gpio_wdt_priv *priv = watchdog_get_drvdata(wdd);
 
+	if(priv->keep_armed_on_close) {
+		/* Keep the driver running on close. */
+		set_bit(WDOG_HW_RUNNING, &wdd->status);
+
+		return 0;
+	}
+
 	if (!priv->always_running) {
 		gpio_wdt_disable(priv);
 		clear_bit(WDOG_HW_RUNNING, &wdd->status);
@@ -148,6 +156,8 @@ static int gpio_wdt_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
 
 	priv->always_running = of_property_read_bool(pdev->dev.of_node,
 						     "always-running");
+	priv->keep_armed_on_close = of_property_read_bool(pdev->dev.of_node,
+						 "keep-armed-on-close");
 
 	watchdog_set_drvdata(&priv->wdd, priv);
 
-- 
2.11.0


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* Re: [PATCH v2] watchdog: gpio: Add "keep-armed-on-close" feature
  2017-03-14 14:11 [PATCH v2] watchdog: gpio: Add "keep-armed-on-close" feature Sylvain Lemieux
@ 2017-03-28 17:25 ` Sylvain Lemieux
  2017-03-30 13:11 ` Guenter Roeck
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Sylvain Lemieux @ 2017-03-28 17:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux; +Cc: wim, linux-watchdog

ping

On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 10:11 -0400, Sylvain Lemieux wrote:
> From: Sylvain Lemieux <slemieux@tycoint.com>
> 
> There is a need to allow a grace period after the watchdog software
> client has closed. It could be used for syncing the filesystem or
> allow graceful termination while still providing a hardware reset
> in case the system has hung.
> 
> The "always-running" configuration from device-tree does not provide
> this since it will automatically keep the hardware watchdog alive as
> soon as the software client closes (i.e. keep toggling the GPIO line
> regardless of the state of the soft part of the watchdog).
> 
> The "keep-armed-on-close" member in the GPIO watchdog implementation
> indicates if an expired timeout should cause a reset.
> 
> This patch add a new "keep-armed-on-close" device-tree configuration
> that will keep the watchdog "armed" until the next timeout period after
> a close. During this period, the hardware watchdog is kept alive.
> A software watchdog client that wants to provide a grace period before
> a hard reset can set the timeout before properly closing.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Sylvain Lemieux <slemieux@tycoint.com>
> ---
> * This patch depend on the:
>   "watchdog: gpio: Convert to use infrastructure triggered keepalives";
>   ref. https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/2/28/239 (version 8)
> 
> Changes from v1 to v2:
> * Rebased on-top of the "watchdog: gpio: keepalives" patch.
>   - Updated the management of the "WDOG_HW_RUNNING" flag.
> * Tested with v4.11-rc1.
> 
>  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/watchdog/gpio-wdt.txt |  3 +++
>  drivers/watchdog/gpio_wdt.c                             | 10 ++++++++++
>  2 files changed, 13 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/watchdog/gpio-wdt.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/watchdog/gpio-wdt.txt
> index 83d28146e39b..48db076771b2 100644
> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/watchdog/gpio-wdt.txt
> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/watchdog/gpio-wdt.txt
> @@ -17,6 +17,9 @@ Optional Properties:
>  - always-running: If the watchdog timer cannot be disabled, add this flag to
>    have the driver keep toggling the signal without a client. It will only cease
>    to toggle the signal when the device is open and the timeout elapsed.
> +- keep-armed-on-close: if the watchdog timer need to keep toggling the signal
> +  when close, until the timeout elapsed, add this flag to have the driver
> +  keep toggling the signal, until the timeout elapsed.
>  - timeout-sec: Contains the watchdog timeout in seconds.
>  - start-at-init: Start kicking watchdog as soon as driver is loaded.
>  
> diff --git a/drivers/watchdog/gpio_wdt.c b/drivers/watchdog/gpio_wdt.c
> index 7b46d224cb56..2f4799bee9bd 100644
> --- a/drivers/watchdog/gpio_wdt.c
> +++ b/drivers/watchdog/gpio_wdt.c
> @@ -29,6 +29,7 @@ struct gpio_wdt_priv {
>  	bool			active_low;
>  	bool			state;
>  	bool			always_running;
> +	bool			keep_armed_on_close;
>  	unsigned int		hw_algo;
>  	struct watchdog_device	wdd;
>  };
> @@ -78,6 +79,13 @@ static int gpio_wdt_stop(struct watchdog_device *wdd)
>  {
>  	struct gpio_wdt_priv *priv = watchdog_get_drvdata(wdd);
>  
> +	if(priv->keep_armed_on_close) {
> +		/* Keep the driver running on close. */
> +		set_bit(WDOG_HW_RUNNING, &wdd->status);
> +
> +		return 0;
> +	}
> +
>  	if (!priv->always_running) {
>  		gpio_wdt_disable(priv);
>  		clear_bit(WDOG_HW_RUNNING, &wdd->status);
> @@ -148,6 +156,8 @@ static int gpio_wdt_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
>  
>  	priv->always_running = of_property_read_bool(pdev->dev.of_node,
>  						     "always-running");
> +	priv->keep_armed_on_close = of_property_read_bool(pdev->dev.of_node,
> +						 "keep-armed-on-close");
>  
>  	watchdog_set_drvdata(&priv->wdd, priv);
>  



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* Re: [PATCH v2] watchdog: gpio: Add "keep-armed-on-close" feature
  2017-03-14 14:11 [PATCH v2] watchdog: gpio: Add "keep-armed-on-close" feature Sylvain Lemieux
  2017-03-28 17:25 ` Sylvain Lemieux
@ 2017-03-30 13:11 ` Guenter Roeck
  2017-03-30 14:46   ` Sylvain Lemieux
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Guenter Roeck @ 2017-03-30 13:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Sylvain Lemieux, wim; +Cc: linux-watchdog

On 03/14/2017 07:11 AM, Sylvain Lemieux wrote:
> From: Sylvain Lemieux <slemieux@tycoint.com>
>
> There is a need to allow a grace period after the watchdog software
> client has closed. It could be used for syncing the filesystem or
> allow graceful termination while still providing a hardware reset
> in case the system has hung.
>
> The "always-running" configuration from device-tree does not provide
> this since it will automatically keep the hardware watchdog alive as
> soon as the software client closes (i.e. keep toggling the GPIO line
> regardless of the state of the soft part of the watchdog).
>
> The "keep-armed-on-close" member in the GPIO watchdog implementation
> indicates if an expired timeout should cause a reset.
>
> This patch add a new "keep-armed-on-close" device-tree configuration
> that will keep the watchdog "armed" until the next timeout period after
> a close. During this period, the hardware watchdog is kept alive.
> A software watchdog client that wants to provide a grace period before
> a hard reset can set the timeout before properly closing.
>

The description doesn't match what the code actually does, at least from
an infrastructure perspective. The infrastructure would just keep it running.

What you are really asking for is something the infrastructure should possibly
do by itself automatically: To keep pinging a HW watchdog after close until
the configured (software) timeout period expires. This would be in line with
expectations.

Also, I seem to recall that the gpio_wdt patch this relies on has a problem
if the watchdog is opened and closed repeatedly. It is still on my task list
to track this down.

Guenter

> Signed-off-by: Sylvain Lemieux <slemieux@tycoint.com>
> ---
> * This patch depend on the:
>   "watchdog: gpio: Convert to use infrastructure triggered keepalives";
>   ref. https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/2/28/239 (version 8)
>
> Changes from v1 to v2:
> * Rebased on-top of the "watchdog: gpio: keepalives" patch.
>   - Updated the management of the "WDOG_HW_RUNNING" flag.
> * Tested with v4.11-rc1.
>
>  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/watchdog/gpio-wdt.txt |  3 +++
>  drivers/watchdog/gpio_wdt.c                             | 10 ++++++++++
>  2 files changed, 13 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/watchdog/gpio-wdt.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/watchdog/gpio-wdt.txt
> index 83d28146e39b..48db076771b2 100644
> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/watchdog/gpio-wdt.txt
> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/watchdog/gpio-wdt.txt
> @@ -17,6 +17,9 @@ Optional Properties:
>  - always-running: If the watchdog timer cannot be disabled, add this flag to
>    have the driver keep toggling the signal without a client. It will only cease
>    to toggle the signal when the device is open and the timeout elapsed.
> +- keep-armed-on-close: if the watchdog timer need to keep toggling the signal
> +  when close, until the timeout elapsed, add this flag to have the driver
> +  keep toggling the signal, until the timeout elapsed.
>  - timeout-sec: Contains the watchdog timeout in seconds.
>  - start-at-init: Start kicking watchdog as soon as driver is loaded.
>
> diff --git a/drivers/watchdog/gpio_wdt.c b/drivers/watchdog/gpio_wdt.c
> index 7b46d224cb56..2f4799bee9bd 100644
> --- a/drivers/watchdog/gpio_wdt.c
> +++ b/drivers/watchdog/gpio_wdt.c
> @@ -29,6 +29,7 @@ struct gpio_wdt_priv {
>  	bool			active_low;
>  	bool			state;
>  	bool			always_running;
> +	bool			keep_armed_on_close;
>  	unsigned int		hw_algo;
>  	struct watchdog_device	wdd;
>  };
> @@ -78,6 +79,13 @@ static int gpio_wdt_stop(struct watchdog_device *wdd)
>  {
>  	struct gpio_wdt_priv *priv = watchdog_get_drvdata(wdd);
>
> +	if(priv->keep_armed_on_close) {
> +		/* Keep the driver running on close. */
> +		set_bit(WDOG_HW_RUNNING, &wdd->status);
> +
> +		return 0;
> +	}
> +
>  	if (!priv->always_running) {
>  		gpio_wdt_disable(priv);
>  		clear_bit(WDOG_HW_RUNNING, &wdd->status);
> @@ -148,6 +156,8 @@ static int gpio_wdt_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
>
>  	priv->always_running = of_property_read_bool(pdev->dev.of_node,
>  						     "always-running");
> +	priv->keep_armed_on_close = of_property_read_bool(pdev->dev.of_node,
> +						 "keep-armed-on-close");
>
>  	watchdog_set_drvdata(&priv->wdd, priv);
>
>


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* Re: [PATCH v2] watchdog: gpio: Add "keep-armed-on-close" feature
  2017-03-30 13:11 ` Guenter Roeck
@ 2017-03-30 14:46   ` Sylvain Lemieux
  2017-05-18 13:01     ` Sylvain Lemieux
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Sylvain Lemieux @ 2017-03-30 14:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Guenter Roeck; +Cc: wim, linux-watchdog

Hi,

On Thu, 2017-03-30 at 06:11 -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> On 03/14/2017 07:11 AM, Sylvain Lemieux wrote:
> > From: Sylvain Lemieux <slemieux@tycoint.com>
> >
> > There is a need to allow a grace period after the watchdog software
> > client has closed. It could be used for syncing the filesystem or
> > allow graceful termination while still providing a hardware reset
> > in case the system has hung.
> >
> > The "always-running" configuration from device-tree does not provide
> > this since it will automatically keep the hardware watchdog alive as
> > soon as the software client closes (i.e. keep toggling the GPIO line
> > regardless of the state of the soft part of the watchdog).
> >
> > The "keep-armed-on-close" member in the GPIO watchdog implementation
> > indicates if an expired timeout should cause a reset.
> >
> > This patch add a new "keep-armed-on-close" device-tree configuration
> > that will keep the watchdog "armed" until the next timeout period after
> > a close. During this period, the hardware watchdog is kept alive.
> > A software watchdog client that wants to provide a grace period before
> > a hard reset can set the timeout before properly closing.
> >
> 
> The description doesn't match what the code actually does, at least from
> an infrastructure perspective. The infrastructure would just keep it running.
> 
I will need to send a new version with an updated description;

I did not update the description after this patch was rebased on-top
of the "watchdog: gpio: keepalives" patch.

> What you are really asking for is something the infrastructure should possibly
> do by itself automatically: To keep pinging a HW watchdog after close until
> the configured (software) timeout period expires. This would be in line with
> expectations.
> 
> Also, I seem to recall that the gpio_wdt patch this relies on has a problem
> if the watchdog is opened and closed repeatedly. It is still on my task list
> to track this down.

The original "watchdog: gpio: keepalives" patch did not have any issue.
I think this patch should be apply mainline.

The problem was related to the management of the WDOG_HW_RUNNING flag
(updated in version 2 of this patch) and an issue in the test program
on our lpc32xx platform (also using pnx4008 watchdog) during the
initial testing with kernel 4.9.

Sylvain
> 
> Guenter
> 
> > Signed-off-by: Sylvain Lemieux <slemieux@tycoint.com>
> > ---
> > * This patch depend on the:
> >   "watchdog: gpio: Convert to use infrastructure triggered keepalives";
> >   ref. https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/2/28/239 (version 8)
> >
> > Changes from v1 to v2:
> > * Rebased on-top of the "watchdog: gpio: keepalives" patch.
> >   - Updated the management of the "WDOG_HW_RUNNING" flag.
> > * Tested with v4.11-rc1.
> >
> >  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/watchdog/gpio-wdt.txt |  3 +++
> >  drivers/watchdog/gpio_wdt.c                             | 10 ++++++++++
> >  2 files changed, 13 insertions(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/watchdog/gpio-wdt.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/watchdog/gpio-wdt.txt
> > index 83d28146e39b..48db076771b2 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/watchdog/gpio-wdt.txt
> > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/watchdog/gpio-wdt.txt
> > @@ -17,6 +17,9 @@ Optional Properties:
> >  - always-running: If the watchdog timer cannot be disabled, add this flag to
> >    have the driver keep toggling the signal without a client. It will only cease
> >    to toggle the signal when the device is open and the timeout elapsed.
> > +- keep-armed-on-close: if the watchdog timer need to keep toggling the signal
> > +  when close, until the timeout elapsed, add this flag to have the driver
> > +  keep toggling the signal, until the timeout elapsed.
> >  - timeout-sec: Contains the watchdog timeout in seconds.
> >  - start-at-init: Start kicking watchdog as soon as driver is loaded.
> >
> > diff --git a/drivers/watchdog/gpio_wdt.c b/drivers/watchdog/gpio_wdt.c
> > index 7b46d224cb56..2f4799bee9bd 100644
> > --- a/drivers/watchdog/gpio_wdt.c
> > +++ b/drivers/watchdog/gpio_wdt.c
> > @@ -29,6 +29,7 @@ struct gpio_wdt_priv {
> >  	bool			active_low;
> >  	bool			state;
> >  	bool			always_running;
> > +	bool			keep_armed_on_close;
> >  	unsigned int		hw_algo;
> >  	struct watchdog_device	wdd;
> >  };
> > @@ -78,6 +79,13 @@ static int gpio_wdt_stop(struct watchdog_device *wdd)
> >  {
> >  	struct gpio_wdt_priv *priv = watchdog_get_drvdata(wdd);
> >
> > +	if(priv->keep_armed_on_close) {
> > +		/* Keep the driver running on close. */
> > +		set_bit(WDOG_HW_RUNNING, &wdd->status);
> > +
> > +		return 0;
> > +	}
> > +
> >  	if (!priv->always_running) {
> >  		gpio_wdt_disable(priv);
> >  		clear_bit(WDOG_HW_RUNNING, &wdd->status);
> > @@ -148,6 +156,8 @@ static int gpio_wdt_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
> >
> >  	priv->always_running = of_property_read_bool(pdev->dev.of_node,
> >  						     "always-running");
> > +	priv->keep_armed_on_close = of_property_read_bool(pdev->dev.of_node,
> > +						 "keep-armed-on-close");
> >
> >  	watchdog_set_drvdata(&priv->wdd, priv);
> >
> >
> 



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* Re: [PATCH v2] watchdog: gpio: Add "keep-armed-on-close" feature
  2017-03-30 14:46   ` Sylvain Lemieux
@ 2017-05-18 13:01     ` Sylvain Lemieux
  2017-05-18 13:50       ` Guenter Roeck
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Sylvain Lemieux @ 2017-05-18 13:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Guenter Roeck; +Cc: wim, linux-watchdog

On Thu, 2017-03-30 at 10:46 -0400, Sylvain Lemieux wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Thu, 2017-03-30 at 06:11 -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > On 03/14/2017 07:11 AM, Sylvain Lemieux wrote:
> > > From: Sylvain Lemieux <slemieux@tycoint.com>
> > >
> > > There is a need to allow a grace period after the watchdog software
> > > client has closed. It could be used for syncing the filesystem or
> > > allow graceful termination while still providing a hardware reset
> > > in case the system has hung.
> > >
> > > The "always-running" configuration from device-tree does not provide
> > > this since it will automatically keep the hardware watchdog alive as
> > > soon as the software client closes (i.e. keep toggling the GPIO line
> > > regardless of the state of the soft part of the watchdog).
> > >
> > > The "keep-armed-on-close" member in the GPIO watchdog implementation
> > > indicates if an expired timeout should cause a reset.
> > >
> > > This patch add a new "keep-armed-on-close" device-tree configuration
> > > that will keep the watchdog "armed" until the next timeout period after
> > > a close. During this period, the hardware watchdog is kept alive.
> > > A software watchdog client that wants to provide a grace period before
> > > a hard reset can set the timeout before properly closing.
> > >
> > 
> > The description doesn't match what the code actually does, at least from
> > an infrastructure perspective. The infrastructure would just keep it running.
> > 
> I will need to send a new version with an updated description;
> 
I will submit v3 later today or tomorrow.

> I did not update the description after this patch was rebased on-top
> of the "watchdog: gpio: keepalives" patch.
> 
> > What you are really asking for is something the infrastructure should possibly
> > do by itself automatically: To keep pinging a HW watchdog after close until
> > the configured (software) timeout period expires. This would be in line with
> > expectations.
> > 
Do you want me to work on a generic version for this option?

Sylvain

> > Also, I seem to recall that the gpio_wdt patch this relies on has a problem
> > if the watchdog is opened and closed repeatedly. It is still on my task list
> > to track this down.
> 
[...]
> 
> Sylvain
> > 
> > Guenter
> > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Sylvain Lemieux <slemieux@tycoint.com>
> > > ---
> > > * This patch depend on the:
> > >   "watchdog: gpio: Convert to use infrastructure triggered keepalives";
> > >   ref. https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/2/28/239 (version 8)
> > >
> > > Changes from v1 to v2:
> > > * Rebased on-top of the "watchdog: gpio: keepalives" patch.
> > >   - Updated the management of the "WDOG_HW_RUNNING" flag.
> > > * Tested with v4.11-rc1.
> > >
> > >  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/watchdog/gpio-wdt.txt |  3 +++
> > >  drivers/watchdog/gpio_wdt.c                             | 10 ++++++++++
> > >  2 files changed, 13 insertions(+)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/watchdog/gpio-wdt.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/watchdog/gpio-wdt.txt
> > > index 83d28146e39b..48db076771b2 100644
> > > --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/watchdog/gpio-wdt.txt
> > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/watchdog/gpio-wdt.txt
> > > @@ -17,6 +17,9 @@ Optional Properties:
> > >  - always-running: If the watchdog timer cannot be disabled, add this flag to
> > >    have the driver keep toggling the signal without a client. It will only cease
> > >    to toggle the signal when the device is open and the timeout elapsed.
> > > +- keep-armed-on-close: if the watchdog timer need to keep toggling the signal
> > > +  when close, until the timeout elapsed, add this flag to have the driver
> > > +  keep toggling the signal, until the timeout elapsed.
> > >  - timeout-sec: Contains the watchdog timeout in seconds.
> > >  - start-at-init: Start kicking watchdog as soon as driver is loaded.
> > >
> > > diff --git a/drivers/watchdog/gpio_wdt.c b/drivers/watchdog/gpio_wdt.c
> > > index 7b46d224cb56..2f4799bee9bd 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/watchdog/gpio_wdt.c
> > > +++ b/drivers/watchdog/gpio_wdt.c
> > > @@ -29,6 +29,7 @@ struct gpio_wdt_priv {
> > >  	bool			active_low;
> > >  	bool			state;
> > >  	bool			always_running;
> > > +	bool			keep_armed_on_close;
> > >  	unsigned int		hw_algo;
> > >  	struct watchdog_device	wdd;
> > >  };
> > > @@ -78,6 +79,13 @@ static int gpio_wdt_stop(struct watchdog_device *wdd)
> > >  {
> > >  	struct gpio_wdt_priv *priv = watchdog_get_drvdata(wdd);
> > >
> > > +	if(priv->keep_armed_on_close) {
> > > +		/* Keep the driver running on close. */
> > > +		set_bit(WDOG_HW_RUNNING, &wdd->status);
> > > +
> > > +		return 0;
> > > +	}
> > > +
> > >  	if (!priv->always_running) {
> > >  		gpio_wdt_disable(priv);
> > >  		clear_bit(WDOG_HW_RUNNING, &wdd->status);
> > > @@ -148,6 +156,8 @@ static int gpio_wdt_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
> > >
> > >  	priv->always_running = of_property_read_bool(pdev->dev.of_node,
> > >  						     "always-running");
> > > +	priv->keep_armed_on_close = of_property_read_bool(pdev->dev.of_node,
> > > +						 "keep-armed-on-close");
> > >
> > >  	watchdog_set_drvdata(&priv->wdd, priv);
> > >
> > >
> > 
> 
> 

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* Re: [PATCH v2] watchdog: gpio: Add "keep-armed-on-close" feature
  2017-05-18 13:01     ` Sylvain Lemieux
@ 2017-05-18 13:50       ` Guenter Roeck
  2017-05-18 16:39         ` Sylvain Lemieux
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Guenter Roeck @ 2017-05-18 13:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Sylvain Lemieux; +Cc: wim, linux-watchdog

On 05/18/2017 06:01 AM, Sylvain Lemieux wrote:
> On Thu, 2017-03-30 at 10:46 -0400, Sylvain Lemieux wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Thu, 2017-03-30 at 06:11 -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>>> On 03/14/2017 07:11 AM, Sylvain Lemieux wrote:
>>>> From: Sylvain Lemieux <slemieux@tycoint.com>
>>>>
>>>> There is a need to allow a grace period after the watchdog software
>>>> client has closed. It could be used for syncing the filesystem or
>>>> allow graceful termination while still providing a hardware reset
>>>> in case the system has hung.
>>>>
>>>> The "always-running" configuration from device-tree does not provide
>>>> this since it will automatically keep the hardware watchdog alive as
>>>> soon as the software client closes (i.e. keep toggling the GPIO line
>>>> regardless of the state of the soft part of the watchdog).
>>>>
>>>> The "keep-armed-on-close" member in the GPIO watchdog implementation
>>>> indicates if an expired timeout should cause a reset.
>>>>
>>>> This patch add a new "keep-armed-on-close" device-tree configuration
>>>> that will keep the watchdog "armed" until the next timeout period after
>>>> a close. During this period, the hardware watchdog is kept alive.
>>>> A software watchdog client that wants to provide a grace period before
>>>> a hard reset can set the timeout before properly closing.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The description doesn't match what the code actually does, at least from
>>> an infrastructure perspective. The infrastructure would just keep it running.
>>>
>> I will need to send a new version with an updated description;
>>
> I will submit v3 later today or tomorrow.
> 
>> I did not update the description after this patch was rebased on-top
>> of the "watchdog: gpio: keepalives" patch.
>>
>>> What you are really asking for is something the infrastructure should possibly
>>> do by itself automatically: To keep pinging a HW watchdog after close until
>>> the configured (software) timeout period expires. This would be in line with
>>> expectations.
>>>
> Do you want me to work on a generic version for this option?
> 

I am not sure I understand the value of the current version (as implemented)
in the first place. It seems to be similar to "always-running", with the exception
that it doesn't start the watchdog immediately when loading the module. That means
it protects the system against hard lockups, but only if the watchdog was opened
at least once. That just seems odd, and you'll have to explain the benefit over
"always-running", and why it would make sense to have such a selective protection.

Note that devicetree property changes need to be Acked by DT maintainers.

Having said that, if what you want is what the description says, not what is
implemented, I'll be happy to accept a patch to change the infrastructure
accordingly.

Thanks,
Guenter

> Sylvain
> 
>>> Also, I seem to recall that the gpio_wdt patch this relies on has a problem
>>> if the watchdog is opened and closed repeatedly. It is still on my task list
>>> to track this down.
>>
> [...]
>>
>> Sylvain
>>>
>>> Guenter
>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Sylvain Lemieux <slemieux@tycoint.com>
>>>> ---
>>>> * This patch depend on the:
>>>>    "watchdog: gpio: Convert to use infrastructure triggered keepalives";
>>>>    ref. https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/2/28/239 (version 8)
>>>>
>>>> Changes from v1 to v2:
>>>> * Rebased on-top of the "watchdog: gpio: keepalives" patch.
>>>>    - Updated the management of the "WDOG_HW_RUNNING" flag.
>>>> * Tested with v4.11-rc1.
>>>>
>>>>   Documentation/devicetree/bindings/watchdog/gpio-wdt.txt |  3 +++
>>>>   drivers/watchdog/gpio_wdt.c                             | 10 ++++++++++
>>>>   2 files changed, 13 insertions(+)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/watchdog/gpio-wdt.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/watchdog/gpio-wdt.txt
>>>> index 83d28146e39b..48db076771b2 100644
>>>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/watchdog/gpio-wdt.txt
>>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/watchdog/gpio-wdt.txt
>>>> @@ -17,6 +17,9 @@ Optional Properties:
>>>>   - always-running: If the watchdog timer cannot be disabled, add this flag to
>>>>     have the driver keep toggling the signal without a client. It will only cease
>>>>     to toggle the signal when the device is open and the timeout elapsed.
>>>> +- keep-armed-on-close: if the watchdog timer need to keep toggling the signal
>>>> +  when close, until the timeout elapsed, add this flag to have the driver
>>>> +  keep toggling the signal, until the timeout elapsed.
>>>>   - timeout-sec: Contains the watchdog timeout in seconds.
>>>>   - start-at-init: Start kicking watchdog as soon as driver is loaded.
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/drivers/watchdog/gpio_wdt.c b/drivers/watchdog/gpio_wdt.c
>>>> index 7b46d224cb56..2f4799bee9bd 100644
>>>> --- a/drivers/watchdog/gpio_wdt.c
>>>> +++ b/drivers/watchdog/gpio_wdt.c
>>>> @@ -29,6 +29,7 @@ struct gpio_wdt_priv {
>>>>   	bool			active_low;
>>>>   	bool			state;
>>>>   	bool			always_running;
>>>> +	bool			keep_armed_on_close;
>>>>   	unsigned int		hw_algo;
>>>>   	struct watchdog_device	wdd;
>>>>   };
>>>> @@ -78,6 +79,13 @@ static int gpio_wdt_stop(struct watchdog_device *wdd)
>>>>   {
>>>>   	struct gpio_wdt_priv *priv = watchdog_get_drvdata(wdd);
>>>>
>>>> +	if(priv->keep_armed_on_close) {
>>>> +		/* Keep the driver running on close. */
>>>> +		set_bit(WDOG_HW_RUNNING, &wdd->status);
>>>> +
>>>> +		return 0;
>>>> +	}
>>>> +
>>>>   	if (!priv->always_running) {
>>>>   		gpio_wdt_disable(priv);
>>>>   		clear_bit(WDOG_HW_RUNNING, &wdd->status);
>>>> @@ -148,6 +156,8 @@ static int gpio_wdt_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
>>>>
>>>>   	priv->always_running = of_property_read_bool(pdev->dev.of_node,
>>>>   						     "always-running");
>>>> +	priv->keep_armed_on_close = of_property_read_bool(pdev->dev.of_node,
>>>> +						 "keep-armed-on-close");
>>>>
>>>>   	watchdog_set_drvdata(&priv->wdd, priv);
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
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* Re: [PATCH v2] watchdog: gpio: Add "keep-armed-on-close" feature
  2017-05-18 13:50       ` Guenter Roeck
@ 2017-05-18 16:39         ` Sylvain Lemieux
  2017-05-18 16:58           ` Guenter Roeck
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Sylvain Lemieux @ 2017-05-18 16:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Guenter Roeck; +Cc: wim, linux-watchdog

On Thu, 2017-05-18 at 06:50 -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> On 05/18/2017 06:01 AM, Sylvain Lemieux wrote:
> > On Thu, 2017-03-30 at 10:46 -0400, Sylvain Lemieux wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On Thu, 2017-03-30 at 06:11 -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> >>> On 03/14/2017 07:11 AM, Sylvain Lemieux wrote:
> >>>> From: Sylvain Lemieux <slemieux@tycoint.com>
> >>>>
> >>>> There is a need to allow a grace period after the watchdog software
> >>>> client has closed. It could be used for syncing the filesystem or
> >>>> allow graceful termination while still providing a hardware reset
> >>>> in case the system has hung.
> >>>>
> >>>> The "always-running" configuration from device-tree does not provide
> >>>> this since it will automatically keep the hardware watchdog alive as
> >>>> soon as the software client closes (i.e. keep toggling the GPIO line
> >>>> regardless of the state of the soft part of the watchdog).
> >>>>
> >>>> The "keep-armed-on-close" member in the GPIO watchdog implementation
> >>>> indicates if an expired timeout should cause a reset.
> >>>>
> >>>> This patch add a new "keep-armed-on-close" device-tree configuration
> >>>> that will keep the watchdog "armed" until the next timeout period after
> >>>> a close. During this period, the hardware watchdog is kept alive.
> >>>> A software watchdog client that wants to provide a grace period before
> >>>> a hard reset can set the timeout before properly closing.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> The description doesn't match what the code actually does, at least from
> >>> an infrastructure perspective. The infrastructure would just keep it running.
> >>>
> >> I will need to send a new version with an updated description;
> >>
> > I will submit v3 later today or tomorrow.
> > 
> >> I did not update the description after this patch was rebased on-top
> >> of the "watchdog: gpio: keepalives" patch.
> >>
> >>> What you are really asking for is something the infrastructure should possibly
> >>> do by itself automatically: To keep pinging a HW watchdog after close until
> >>> the configured (software) timeout period expires. This would be in line with
> >>> expectations.
> >>>
> > Do you want me to work on a generic version for this option?
> > 
> 
> I am not sure I understand the value of the current version (as implemented)
> in the first place. It seems to be similar to "always-running", with the exception
> that it doesn't start the watchdog immediately when loading the module. That means
> it protects the system against hard lockups, but only if the watchdog was opened
> at least once. That just seems odd, and you'll have to explain the benefit over
> "always-running", and why it would make sense to have such a selective protection.
> 
The only difference between this implementation and the "always-running"
is the way the close operation is handle; when "keep_armed_on_close"
option is selected, the watchdog will generate a timeout at the end
of the grace period.

Regarding the loading of the module, we have a separate patch, that
is apply to the GPIO watchdog to perform an early start (same way as
"always-running"); this is not part of this change, as this change
only modify the behavior of the driver on close.

> Note that devicetree property changes need to be Acked by DT maintainers.
> 
I will cc them on the new patch.

> Having said that, if what you want is what the description says, not what is
> implemented, I'll be happy to accept a patch to change the infrastructure
> accordingly.
> 
I will look into modifying the infrastructure to add the support
for "keep_running_on_close"; this will replace this patch.

I will need to submit my other patch for this driver to allow
an "early start" of the watchdog
(same as what the "always-running" is doing).

Regards,
Sylvain
> Thanks,
> Guenter
> 
> > Sylvain
> > 
> >>
> > [...]
> >>
> >> Sylvain
> >>>
> >>> Guenter
> >>>
> >>>> Signed-off-by: Sylvain Lemieux <slemieux@tycoint.com>
> >>>> ---
> >>>> * This patch depend on the:
> >>>>    "watchdog: gpio: Convert to use infrastructure triggered keepalives";
> >>>>    ref. https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/2/28/239 (version 8)
> >>>>
> >>>> Changes from v1 to v2:
> >>>> * Rebased on-top of the "watchdog: gpio: keepalives" patch.
> >>>>    - Updated the management of the "WDOG_HW_RUNNING" flag.
> >>>> * Tested with v4.11-rc1.
> >>>>
> >>>>   Documentation/devicetree/bindings/watchdog/gpio-wdt.txt |  3 +++
> >>>>   drivers/watchdog/gpio_wdt.c                             | 10 ++++++++++
> >>>>   2 files changed, 13 insertions(+)
> >>>>
> >>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/watchdog/gpio-wdt.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/watchdog/gpio-wdt.txt
> >>>> index 83d28146e39b..48db076771b2 100644
> >>>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/watchdog/gpio-wdt.txt
> >>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/watchdog/gpio-wdt.txt
> >>>> @@ -17,6 +17,9 @@ Optional Properties:
> >>>>   - always-running: If the watchdog timer cannot be disabled, add this flag to
> >>>>     have the driver keep toggling the signal without a client. It will only cease
> >>>>     to toggle the signal when the device is open and the timeout elapsed.
> >>>> +- keep-armed-on-close: if the watchdog timer need to keep toggling the signal
> >>>> +  when close, until the timeout elapsed, add this flag to have the driver
> >>>> +  keep toggling the signal, until the timeout elapsed.
> >>>>   - timeout-sec: Contains the watchdog timeout in seconds.
> >>>>   - start-at-init: Start kicking watchdog as soon as driver is loaded.
> >>>>
> >>>> diff --git a/drivers/watchdog/gpio_wdt.c b/drivers/watchdog/gpio_wdt.c
> >>>> index 7b46d224cb56..2f4799bee9bd 100644
> >>>> --- a/drivers/watchdog/gpio_wdt.c
> >>>> +++ b/drivers/watchdog/gpio_wdt.c
> >>>> @@ -29,6 +29,7 @@ struct gpio_wdt_priv {
> >>>>   	bool			active_low;
> >>>>   	bool			state;
> >>>>   	bool			always_running;
> >>>> +	bool			keep_armed_on_close;
> >>>>   	unsigned int		hw_algo;
> >>>>   	struct watchdog_device	wdd;
> >>>>   };
> >>>> @@ -78,6 +79,13 @@ static int gpio_wdt_stop(struct watchdog_device *wdd)
> >>>>   {
> >>>>   	struct gpio_wdt_priv *priv = watchdog_get_drvdata(wdd);
> >>>>
> >>>> +	if(priv->keep_armed_on_close) {
> >>>> +		/* Keep the driver running on close. */
> >>>> +		set_bit(WDOG_HW_RUNNING, &wdd->status);
> >>>> +
> >>>> +		return 0;
> >>>> +	}
> >>>> +
> >>>>   	if (!priv->always_running) {
> >>>>   		gpio_wdt_disable(priv);
> >>>>   		clear_bit(WDOG_HW_RUNNING, &wdd->status);
> >>>> @@ -148,6 +156,8 @@ static int gpio_wdt_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
> >>>>
> >>>>   	priv->always_running = of_property_read_bool(pdev->dev.of_node,
> >>>>   						     "always-running");
> >>>> +	priv->keep_armed_on_close = of_property_read_bool(pdev->dev.of_node,
> >>>> +						 "keep-armed-on-close");
> >>>>
> >>>>   	watchdog_set_drvdata(&priv->wdd, priv);
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> > 
> > 
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* Re: [PATCH v2] watchdog: gpio: Add "keep-armed-on-close" feature
  2017-05-18 16:39         ` Sylvain Lemieux
@ 2017-05-18 16:58           ` Guenter Roeck
  2017-05-18 17:26             ` Sylvain Lemieux
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Guenter Roeck @ 2017-05-18 16:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Sylvain Lemieux; +Cc: wim, linux-watchdog

On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 12:39:23PM -0400, Sylvain Lemieux wrote:
> On Thu, 2017-05-18 at 06:50 -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > On 05/18/2017 06:01 AM, Sylvain Lemieux wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2017-03-30 at 10:46 -0400, Sylvain Lemieux wrote:
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, 2017-03-30 at 06:11 -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > >>> On 03/14/2017 07:11 AM, Sylvain Lemieux wrote:
> > >>>> From: Sylvain Lemieux <slemieux@tycoint.com>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> There is a need to allow a grace period after the watchdog software
> > >>>> client has closed. It could be used for syncing the filesystem or
> > >>>> allow graceful termination while still providing a hardware reset
> > >>>> in case the system has hung.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The "always-running" configuration from device-tree does not provide
> > >>>> this since it will automatically keep the hardware watchdog alive as
> > >>>> soon as the software client closes (i.e. keep toggling the GPIO line
> > >>>> regardless of the state of the soft part of the watchdog).
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The "keep-armed-on-close" member in the GPIO watchdog implementation
> > >>>> indicates if an expired timeout should cause a reset.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This patch add a new "keep-armed-on-close" device-tree configuration
> > >>>> that will keep the watchdog "armed" until the next timeout period after
> > >>>> a close. During this period, the hardware watchdog is kept alive.
> > >>>> A software watchdog client that wants to provide a grace period before
> > >>>> a hard reset can set the timeout before properly closing.
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> The description doesn't match what the code actually does, at least from
> > >>> an infrastructure perspective. The infrastructure would just keep it running.
> > >>>
> > >> I will need to send a new version with an updated description;
> > >>
> > > I will submit v3 later today or tomorrow.
> > > 
> > >> I did not update the description after this patch was rebased on-top
> > >> of the "watchdog: gpio: keepalives" patch.
> > >>
> > >>> What you are really asking for is something the infrastructure should possibly
> > >>> do by itself automatically: To keep pinging a HW watchdog after close until
> > >>> the configured (software) timeout period expires. This would be in line with
> > >>> expectations.
> > >>>
> > > Do you want me to work on a generic version for this option?
> > > 
> > 
> > I am not sure I understand the value of the current version (as implemented)
> > in the first place. It seems to be similar to "always-running", with the exception
> > that it doesn't start the watchdog immediately when loading the module. That means
> > it protects the system against hard lockups, but only if the watchdog was opened
> > at least once. That just seems odd, and you'll have to explain the benefit over
> > "always-running", and why it would make sense to have such a selective protection.
> > 
> The only difference between this implementation and the "always-running"
> is the way the close operation is handle; when "keep_armed_on_close"
> option is selected, the watchdog will generate a timeout at the end
> of the grace period.
> 

Not as currently implemented, though.

> Regarding the loading of the module, we have a separate patch, that
> is apply to the GPIO watchdog to perform an early start (same way as
> "always-running"); this is not part of this change, as this change
> only modify the behavior of the driver on close.
> 
> > Note that devicetree property changes need to be Acked by DT maintainers.
> > 
> I will cc them on the new patch.
> 

There is no need for a devicetree property; this is a bug fix, not a feature
(user space can expect a watchdog to expire only after the configured grace
period expired).

> > Having said that, if what you want is what the description says, not what is
> > implemented, I'll be happy to accept a patch to change the infrastructure
> > accordingly.
> > 
> I will look into modifying the infrastructure to add the support
> for "keep_running_on_close"; this will replace this patch.
> 
> I will need to submit my other patch for this driver to allow
> an "early start" of the watchdog
> (same as what the "always-running" is doing).
> 
Confused. If the functionality is already there, what would this patch do ?

Thanks,
Guenter

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* Re: [PATCH v2] watchdog: gpio: Add "keep-armed-on-close" feature
  2017-05-18 16:58           ` Guenter Roeck
@ 2017-05-18 17:26             ` Sylvain Lemieux
  2017-05-18 17:39               ` Guenter Roeck
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Sylvain Lemieux @ 2017-05-18 17:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Guenter Roeck; +Cc: wim, linux-watchdog

On Thu, 2017-05-18 at 09:58 -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 12:39:23PM -0400, Sylvain Lemieux wrote:
> > On Thu, 2017-05-18 at 06:50 -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > > On 05/18/2017 06:01 AM, Sylvain Lemieux wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2017-03-30 at 10:46 -0400, Sylvain Lemieux wrote:
> > > >> Hi,
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, 2017-03-30 at 06:11 -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > > >>> On 03/14/2017 07:11 AM, Sylvain Lemieux wrote:
> > > >>>> From: Sylvain Lemieux <slemieux@tycoint.com>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> There is a need to allow a grace period after the watchdog software
> > > >>>> client has closed. It could be used for syncing the filesystem or
> > > >>>> allow graceful termination while still providing a hardware reset
> > > >>>> in case the system has hung.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> The "always-running" configuration from device-tree does not provide
> > > >>>> this since it will automatically keep the hardware watchdog alive as
> > > >>>> soon as the software client closes (i.e. keep toggling the GPIO line
> > > >>>> regardless of the state of the soft part of the watchdog).
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> The "keep-armed-on-close" member in the GPIO watchdog implementation
> > > >>>> indicates if an expired timeout should cause a reset.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> This patch add a new "keep-armed-on-close" device-tree configuration
> > > >>>> that will keep the watchdog "armed" until the next timeout period after
> > > >>>> a close. During this period, the hardware watchdog is kept alive.
> > > >>>> A software watchdog client that wants to provide a grace period before
> > > >>>> a hard reset can set the timeout before properly closing.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The description doesn't match what the code actually does, at least from
> > > >>> an infrastructure perspective. The infrastructure would just keep it running.
> > > >>>
> > > >> I will need to send a new version with an updated description;
> > > >>
> > > > I will submit v3 later today or tomorrow.
> > > > 
> > > >> I did not update the description after this patch was rebased on-top
> > > >> of the "watchdog: gpio: keepalives" patch.
> > > >>
> > > >>> What you are really asking for is something the infrastructure should possibly
> > > >>> do by itself automatically: To keep pinging a HW watchdog after close until
> > > >>> the configured (software) timeout period expires. This would be in line with
> > > >>> expectations.
> > > >>>
> > > > Do you want me to work on a generic version for this option?
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I am not sure I understand the value of the current version (as implemented)
> > > in the first place. It seems to be similar to "always-running", with the exception
> > > that it doesn't start the watchdog immediately when loading the module. That means
> > > it protects the system against hard lockups, but only if the watchdog was opened
> > > at least once. That just seems odd, and you'll have to explain the benefit over
> > > "always-running", and why it would make sense to have such a selective protection.
> > > 
> > The only difference between this implementation and the "always-running"
> > is the way the close operation is handle; when "keep_armed_on_close"
> > option is selected, the watchdog will generate a timeout at the end
> > of the grace period.
> > 
> 
> Not as currently implemented, though.
> 
I will retest; this was the case before this patch was apply to
the GPIO watchdog (https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/2/28/239).

> > Regarding the loading of the module, we have a separate patch, that
> > is apply to the GPIO watchdog to perform an early start (same way as
> > "always-running"); this is not part of this change, as this change
> > only modify the behavior of the driver on close.
> > 
> > > Note that devicetree property changes need to be Acked by DT maintainers.
> > > 
> > I will cc them on the new patch.
> > 
> 
> There is no need for a devicetree property; this is a bug fix, not a feature
> (user space can expect a watchdog to expire only after the configured grace
> period expired).
> 
As stated earlier, I will retest and get back to you.

> > > Having said that, if what you want is what the description says, not what is
> > > implemented, I'll be happy to accept a patch to change the infrastructure
> > > accordingly.
> > > 
> > I will look into modifying the infrastructure to add the support
> > for "keep_running_on_close"; this will replace this patch.
> > 
> > I will need to submit my other patch for this driver to allow
> > an "early start" of the watchdog
> > (same as what the "always-running" is doing).
> > 
> Confused. If the functionality is already there, what would this patch do ?
> 
This functionality is there with the "always-running"; I need this
behavior on loading, but not the "always-running" behavior on close;

This patch is adding an option to start the watchdog at init
(i.e. loading).

> Thanks,
> Guenter

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v2] watchdog: gpio: Add "keep-armed-on-close" feature
  2017-05-18 17:26             ` Sylvain Lemieux
@ 2017-05-18 17:39               ` Guenter Roeck
  2017-05-18 19:08                 ` Sylvain Lemieux
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Guenter Roeck @ 2017-05-18 17:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Sylvain Lemieux; +Cc: wim, linux-watchdog

On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 01:26:55PM -0400, Sylvain Lemieux wrote:
> On Thu, 2017-05-18 at 09:58 -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 12:39:23PM -0400, Sylvain Lemieux wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2017-05-18 at 06:50 -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > > > On 05/18/2017 06:01 AM, Sylvain Lemieux wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, 2017-03-30 at 10:46 -0400, Sylvain Lemieux wrote:
> > > > >> Hi,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Thu, 2017-03-30 at 06:11 -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > > > >>> On 03/14/2017 07:11 AM, Sylvain Lemieux wrote:
> > > > >>>> From: Sylvain Lemieux <slemieux@tycoint.com>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> There is a need to allow a grace period after the watchdog software
> > > > >>>> client has closed. It could be used for syncing the filesystem or
> > > > >>>> allow graceful termination while still providing a hardware reset
> > > > >>>> in case the system has hung.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> The "always-running" configuration from device-tree does not provide
> > > > >>>> this since it will automatically keep the hardware watchdog alive as
> > > > >>>> soon as the software client closes (i.e. keep toggling the GPIO line
> > > > >>>> regardless of the state of the soft part of the watchdog).
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> The "keep-armed-on-close" member in the GPIO watchdog implementation
> > > > >>>> indicates if an expired timeout should cause a reset.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> This patch add a new "keep-armed-on-close" device-tree configuration
> > > > >>>> that will keep the watchdog "armed" until the next timeout period after
> > > > >>>> a close. During this period, the hardware watchdog is kept alive.
> > > > >>>> A software watchdog client that wants to provide a grace period before
> > > > >>>> a hard reset can set the timeout before properly closing.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> The description doesn't match what the code actually does, at least from
> > > > >>> an infrastructure perspective. The infrastructure would just keep it running.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >> I will need to send a new version with an updated description;
> > > > >>
> > > > > I will submit v3 later today or tomorrow.
> > > > > 
> > > > >> I did not update the description after this patch was rebased on-top
> > > > >> of the "watchdog: gpio: keepalives" patch.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> What you are really asking for is something the infrastructure should possibly
> > > > >>> do by itself automatically: To keep pinging a HW watchdog after close until
> > > > >>> the configured (software) timeout period expires. This would be in line with
> > > > >>> expectations.
> > > > >>>
> > > > > Do you want me to work on a generic version for this option?
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I am not sure I understand the value of the current version (as implemented)
> > > > in the first place. It seems to be similar to "always-running", with the exception
> > > > that it doesn't start the watchdog immediately when loading the module. That means
> > > > it protects the system against hard lockups, but only if the watchdog was opened
> > > > at least once. That just seems odd, and you'll have to explain the benefit over
> > > > "always-running", and why it would make sense to have such a selective protection.
> > > > 
> > > The only difference between this implementation and the "always-running"
> > > is the way the close operation is handle; when "keep_armed_on_close"
> > > option is selected, the watchdog will generate a timeout at the end
> > > of the grace period.
> > > 
> > 
> > Not as currently implemented, though.
> > 
> I will retest; this was the case before this patch was apply to
> the GPIO watchdog (https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/2/28/239).
> 
> > > Regarding the loading of the module, we have a separate patch, that
> > > is apply to the GPIO watchdog to perform an early start (same way as
> > > "always-running"); this is not part of this change, as this change
> > > only modify the behavior of the driver on close.
> > > 
> > > > Note that devicetree property changes need to be Acked by DT maintainers.
> > > > 
> > > I will cc them on the new patch.
> > > 
> > 
> > There is no need for a devicetree property; this is a bug fix, not a feature
> > (user space can expect a watchdog to expire only after the configured grace
> > period expired).
> > 
> As stated earlier, I will retest and get back to you.
> 
> > > > Having said that, if what you want is what the description says, not what is
> > > > implemented, I'll be happy to accept a patch to change the infrastructure
> > > > accordingly.
> > > > 
> > > I will look into modifying the infrastructure to add the support
> > > for "keep_running_on_close"; this will replace this patch.
> > > 
> > > I will need to submit my other patch for this driver to allow
> > > an "early start" of the watchdog
> > > (same as what the "always-running" is doing).
> > > 
> > Confused. If the functionality is already there, what would this patch do ?
> > 
> This functionality is there with the "always-running"; I need this
> behavior on loading, but not the "always-running" behavior on close;
> 
> This patch is adding an option to start the watchdog at init
> (i.e. loading).
> 

I may be misssing something, but

static int gpio_wdt_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
{
	...
	if (priv->always_running)
		gpio_wdt_start_impl(priv);
}

combined with CONFIG_GPIO_WATCHDOG_ARCH_INITCALL is as early as you can get.

Guenter

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v2] watchdog: gpio: Add "keep-armed-on-close" feature
  2017-05-18 17:39               ` Guenter Roeck
@ 2017-05-18 19:08                 ` Sylvain Lemieux
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Sylvain Lemieux @ 2017-05-18 19:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Guenter Roeck; +Cc: wim, linux-watchdog

On Thu, 2017-05-18 at 10:39 -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 01:26:55PM -0400, Sylvain Lemieux wrote:
> > On Thu, 2017-05-18 at 09:58 -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > > On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 12:39:23PM -0400, Sylvain Lemieux wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2017-05-18 at 06:50 -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > > > > On 05/18/2017 06:01 AM, Sylvain Lemieux wrote:
> > > > > > On Thu, 2017-03-30 at 10:46 -0400, Sylvain Lemieux wrote:
> > > > > >> Hi,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Thu, 2017-03-30 at 06:11 -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > > > > >>> On 03/14/2017 07:11 AM, Sylvain Lemieux wrote:
> > > > > >>>> From: Sylvain Lemieux <slemieux@tycoint.com>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> There is a need to allow a grace period after the watchdog software
> > > > > >>>> client has closed. It could be used for syncing the filesystem or
> > > > > >>>> allow graceful termination while still providing a hardware reset
> > > > > >>>> in case the system has hung.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> The "always-running" configuration from device-tree does not provide
> > > > > >>>> this since it will automatically keep the hardware watchdog alive as
> > > > > >>>> soon as the software client closes (i.e. keep toggling the GPIO line
> > > > > >>>> regardless of the state of the soft part of the watchdog).
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> The "keep-armed-on-close" member in the GPIO watchdog implementation
> > > > > >>>> indicates if an expired timeout should cause a reset.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> This patch add a new "keep-armed-on-close" device-tree configuration
> > > > > >>>> that will keep the watchdog "armed" until the next timeout period after
> > > > > >>>> a close. During this period, the hardware watchdog is kept alive.
> > > > > >>>> A software watchdog client that wants to provide a grace period before
> > > > > >>>> a hard reset can set the timeout before properly closing.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> The description doesn't match what the code actually does, at least from
> > > > > >>> an infrastructure perspective. The infrastructure would just keep it running.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >> I will need to send a new version with an updated description;
> > > > > >>
> > > > > > I will submit v3 later today or tomorrow.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >> I did not update the description after this patch was rebased on-top
> > > > > >> of the "watchdog: gpio: keepalives" patch.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> What you are really asking for is something the infrastructure should possibly
> > > > > >>> do by itself automatically: To keep pinging a HW watchdog after close until
> > > > > >>> the configured (software) timeout period expires. This would be in line with
> > > > > >>> expectations.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > > Do you want me to work on a generic version for this option?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I am not sure I understand the value of the current version (as implemented)
> > > > > in the first place. It seems to be similar to "always-running", with the exception
> > > > > that it doesn't start the watchdog immediately when loading the module. That means
> > > > > it protects the system against hard lockups, but only if the watchdog was opened
> > > > > at least once. That just seems odd, and you'll have to explain the benefit over
> > > > > "always-running", and why it would make sense to have such a selective protection.
> > > > > 
> > > > The only difference between this implementation and the "always-running"
> > > > is the way the close operation is handle; when "keep_armed_on_close"
> > > > option is selected, the watchdog will generate a timeout at the end
> > > > of the grace period.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Not as currently implemented, though.
> > > 
> > I will retest; this was the case before this patch was apply to
> > the GPIO watchdog (https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/2/28/239).
> > 
> > > > Regarding the loading of the module, we have a separate patch, that
> > > > is apply to the GPIO watchdog to perform an early start (same way as
> > > > "always-running"); this is not part of this change, as this change
> > > > only modify the behavior of the driver on close.
> > > > 
> > > > > Note that devicetree property changes need to be Acked by DT maintainers.
> > > > > 
> > > > I will cc them on the new patch.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > There is no need for a devicetree property; this is a bug fix, not a feature
> > > (user space can expect a watchdog to expire only after the configured grace
> > > period expired).
> > > 
> > As stated earlier, I will retest and get back to you.
> > 
> > > > > Having said that, if what you want is what the description says, not what is
> > > > > implemented, I'll be happy to accept a patch to change the infrastructure
> > > > > accordingly.
> > > > > 
> > > > I will look into modifying the infrastructure to add the support
> > > > for "keep_running_on_close"; this will replace this patch.
> > > > 
> > > > I will need to submit my other patch for this driver to allow
> > > > an "early start" of the watchdog
> > > > (same as what the "always-running" is doing).
> > > > 
> > > Confused. If the functionality is already there, what would this patch do ?
> > > 
> > This functionality is there with the "always-running"; I need this
> > behavior on loading, but not the "always-running" behavior on close;
> > 
> > This patch is adding an option to start the watchdog at init
> > (i.e. loading).
> > 
> 
> I may be misssing something, but
> 
> static int gpio_wdt_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
> {
> 	...
> 	if (priv->always_running)
> 		gpio_wdt_start_impl(priv);
> }
> 
> combined with CONFIG_GPIO_WATCHDOG_ARCH_INITCALL is as early as you can get.
> 
I cannot use the "always-running" feature, as this will keep
the watchdog always running on close (no timeout).

I need another way to execute the "gpio_wdt_start" during the loading.

Sylvain

> Guenter

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