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From: Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de>
To: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>
Cc: jdow <jdow@earthlink.net>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	David Sterba <dsterba@suse.cz>,
	Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-m68k <linux-m68k@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: moving affs + RDB partition support to staging?
Date: Sun, 06 May 2018 12:10:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1580998.mIZvI3OA13@merkaba> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f8a044e8-01b0-7008-49ac-7e9c5ce7defd@physik.fu-berlin.de>

John Paul Adrian Glaubitz - 06.05.18, 10:52:
> On 04/27/2018 03:26 AM, jdow wrote:
> > And before I forget there are two features of the RDBs that I
> > heartily recommend never implementing on Linux. They were good
> > ideas at the time; but, times changed. The RDBs are capable of
> > storing a filesystem driver and some drive init code for the plugin
> > disk driver card. That is giving malware authors entirely goo easy
> > a shot at owning a machine. Martin S., I would strongly suggest
> > that going forward those two capabilities be removed from the RDB
> > readers in AmigaOS as well as Linux OS.
> 
> I assume removing the feature for AmigaOS isn't really possible since
> we don't have the source code for that, do we?

AmigaOS 4.x does not support loading filesystems from RDB anymore as far 
as I know. Meanwhile I am not involved with the AmigaOS development 
anymore, but that is the last state I know. Similarily to Linux 
filesystems drivers are loaded as "modules" into the kernel. Its also 
still possible to load a filesystem as a file from disk, but that does 
not work for the filesystem the kernel boots from. The AmigaOS kernel 
still decides which of the kernel filesystem to use according to the 
DOSType of the partition.

Thanks,
-- 
Martin

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de>
To: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>
Cc: jdow <jdow@earthlink.net>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	David Sterba <dsterba@suse.cz>,
	Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-m68k <linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org>
Subject: Re: moving affs + RDB partition support to staging?
Date: Sun, 06 May 2018 12:10:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1580998.mIZvI3OA13@merkaba> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f8a044e8-01b0-7008-49ac-7e9c5ce7defd@physik.fu-berlin.de>

John Paul Adrian Glaubitz - 06.05.18, 10:52:
> On 04/27/2018 03:26 AM, jdow wrote:
> > And before I forget there are two features of the RDBs that I
> > heartily recommend never implementing on Linux. They were good
> > ideas at the time; but, times changed. The RDBs are capable of
> > storing a filesystem driver and some drive init code for the plugin
> > disk driver card. That is giving malware authors entirely goo easy
> > a shot at owning a machine. Martin S., I would strongly suggest
> > that going forward those two capabilities be removed from the RDB
> > readers in AmigaOS as well as Linux OS.
> 
> I assume removing the feature for AmigaOS isn't really possible since
> we don't have the source code for that, do we?

AmigaOS 4.x does not support loading filesystems from RDB anymore as far 
as I know. Meanwhile I am not involved with the AmigaOS development 
anymore, but that is the last state I know. Similarily to Linux 
filesystems drivers are loaded as "modules" into the kernel. Its also 
still possible to load a filesystem as a file from disk, but that does 
not work for the filesystem the kernel boots from. The AmigaOS kernel 
still decides which of the kernel filesystem to use according to the 
DOSType of the partition.

Thanks,
-- 
Martin

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-06 10:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-25 15:46 Moving unmaintained filesystems to staging Matthew Wilcox
2018-04-25 15:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-25 20:30 ` David Sterba
2018-04-26  2:57   ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-04-26 10:28     ` moving affs + RDB partition support to staging? (was: Re: Moving unmaintained filesystems to staging) Martin Steigerwald
2018-04-26 10:28       ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-04-26 10:45       ` moving affs + RDB partition support to staging? John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-04-26 10:45         ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-04-26 10:59         ` David Sterba
2018-04-26 11:06           ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-05-06  0:59         ` Al Viro
2018-05-06  7:40           ` Al Viro
2018-05-06  7:40             ` Al Viro
2018-05-06 20:46             ` Al Viro
2018-05-06 20:46               ` Al Viro
2018-05-06 20:49               ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-05-06 21:32               ` Al Viro
2018-05-06 21:32                 ` Al Viro
2018-05-07  2:15                 ` Al Viro
2018-05-07  2:15                   ` Al Viro
2018-05-07  2:40                   ` Michael Schmitz
2018-05-07  2:40                     ` Michael Schmitz
2018-05-07  7:08                     ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-05-07  7:08                       ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-05-07 20:50                       ` Michael Schmitz
2018-05-07 20:50                         ` Michael Schmitz
2018-05-07 20:56                         ` Ingo Jürgensmann
2018-05-07 20:58                           ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-05-06  8:40           ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-05-06  8:40             ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-05-06 10:12           ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-04-26 11:00       ` moving affs + RDB partition support to staging? (was: Re: Moving unmaintained filesystems to staging) Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-26 11:00         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-26 11:08       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-04-26 11:08         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-04-26 23:56         ` Finn Thain
2018-04-26 23:56           ` Finn Thain
2018-04-27  1:43           ` moving affs + RDB partition support to staging? jdow
2018-04-27  1:43             ` jdow
2018-04-27  1:26         ` jdow
2018-04-27  1:26           ` jdow
2018-05-06  8:52           ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-05-06 10:10             ` Martin Steigerwald [this message]
2018-05-06 10:10               ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-05-07  4:54             ` jdow
2018-04-27  2:11         ` moving affs + RDB partition support to staging? (was: Re: Moving unmaintained filesystems to staging) Michael Schmitz
2018-04-27  2:11           ` Michael Schmitz
2018-06-24  9:06           ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-06-24  9:06             ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-06-24 11:33             ` moving affs + RDB partition support to staging? jdow
2018-06-24 11:40             ` jdow
2018-06-26  2:23               ` Michael Schmitz
2018-06-26  5:17                 ` jdow
2018-06-26  8:12                   ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-06-26  9:46                     ` jdow
2018-06-26  8:31                   ` Michael Schmitz
2018-06-26  9:45                     ` jdow
2018-06-27  1:07                       ` Michael Schmitz
2018-06-27  6:24                         ` jdow
2018-06-27  8:03                           ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-06-27  8:03                             ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-06-28  2:57                             ` jdow
2018-06-28  7:40                               ` Amiga RDB partition support for disks >= 2 TB (was: Re: moving affs + RDB partition support to staging?) Martin Steigerwald
2018-06-27  9:00                           ` moving affs + RDB partition support to staging? Michael Schmitz
2018-06-28  3:44                             ` jdow
2018-06-28  5:43                               ` Michael Schmitz
2018-06-28  6:39                                 ` jdow
2018-06-28  8:16                                   ` Amiga RDB partition support for disks >= 2 TB (was: Re: moving affs + RDB partition support to staging?) Martin Steigerwald
2018-06-28 10:00                                     ` Amiga RDB partition support for disks >= 2 TB jdow
2018-06-28 11:30                                       ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-06-28 11:38                                         ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-06-28 12:31                                           ` jdow
2018-06-28  8:07                                 ` Amiga RDB partition support for disks >= 2 TB (was: Re: moving affs + RDB partition support to staging?) Martin Steigerwald
2018-06-27  7:57                         ` moving affs + RDB partition support to staging? Martin Steigerwald
2018-06-28  2:56                           ` jdow
2018-06-26  8:02                 ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-06-26  8:40                   ` Michael Schmitz
2018-06-26  9:31                   ` jdow
2018-06-25  7:53             ` moving affs + RDB partition support to staging? (was: Re: Moving unmaintained filesystems to staging) Michael Schmitz
2018-06-25  8:26               ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-06-25  8:26                 ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-06-25  8:40               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-04-27  8:01         ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-04-27  8:01           ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-04-26  4:58   ` Moving unmaintained filesystems to staging Nikolay Borisov
2018-04-26  5:30     ` Willy Tarreau
2018-04-26  6:11 ` Pavel Machek
2018-04-26 10:36   ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-05-03  9:18     ` Pavel Machek
2018-04-27  1:10   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-04-29 12:07   ` Greg KH
2018-04-29 20:07     ` Ondrej Zary
2018-04-29 23:37       ` Greg KH
2018-05-01 10:14         ` Pavel Machek

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